THE WHITE HOUSE Office of the Press Secretary ______________________________________________________________ For Immediate Release September 30, 1998 PRESS BRIEFING BY MIKE MCCURRY The Briefing Room .............. Q Mike, speaking of secret units in the White House, do you know of any secret police operation in this White House? MR. MCCURRY: I do not. And let me -- here's the danger of grand jury testimony that is just sort of dumped unedited into the public domain. This arises, as you well know, from testimony that Mr. Dick Morris gave in front of the grand jury. He has been saying exactly that same thing, writing exactly that same thing for weeks and weeks now, and it got all the attention it deserved, which is to say it got zero attention, because, as he admitted to those of you who contacted him yesterday, he has no factual information to support that allegation. He just kind of made it up. But when he made it up in front of the grand jury and suddenly some people treated it as news, I'm not sure I understand why it's news. It doesn't have any more merit or value dumped in the raw and unedited form on the streets now by the committee than it did when he put it in whatever venue he had for punditry. You know, punditry doesn't automatically make grand jury testimony more enlightening. Q Where do you think he got that idea? MR. MCCURRY: I have not a clue. And he made clear to those of you who talked to him yesterday that he doesn't have a clue. He thinks he read it somewhere. Q So you're saying this former top aide to Mr. Clinton perjured himself in front of the grand jury? MR. MCCURRY: No, I don't -- haven't seen his testimony, so I don't know the nature of it. Normally, grand jury testimony is secret. I haven't seen the transcript of what he said, it hasn't been released -- it's been seen by some and it's been reported on by some of you, but we haven't seen the nature of his testimony. So there's no way we can know. Q Do you know if it will be put out, made public later this week? MR. MCCURRY: No -- I mean, we've seen the same kind of anecdotal reporting that's some of you are carrying in your own reports.