The White House Briefing Room


August 12, 1998

PRESS BRIEFING BY JOE LOCKHART AND COLONEL P.J. CROWLEY





                           THE WHITE HOUSE

                    Office of the Press Secretary
______________________________________________________________
For Immediate Release                          August 12, 1998


                         PRESS BRIEFING BY
                JOE LOCKHART AND COLONEL P.J. CROWLEY


                        The Briefing Room


1:30 P.M. EDT


	     MR. LOCKHART:  Good afternoon, everyone.  I'm looking to
see if there are any hearty souls who actually were with us last
night on our adventure back from the West Coast.  Mr. Bloom.

	     As you know, the President has spent the morning, after
getting a little rest himself, with his national security team.  So
I'm going to ask Colonel Crowley to come up and give you a readout on
his meetings, and then after that I will be available for any other
questions you might have.

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  Good afternoon.  Let me run through a
little bit of the President's day overall.  As Joe said, actually en
route back from Andrews this morning he had the opportunity to talk
briefly with Secretary Albright as she was heading to Ramstein Air
Base.  I'm sure the President shares the Secretary's view that -- for
the deep respect that she feels and that he feels for the 10
Americans that the Secretary will bring home to Andrews Air Force
Base tomorrow, and our determination that we will hold accountable
those who are responsible for these attacks.

	     Later on in the morning the President had his regular
briefing with Sandy Berger, the National Security Advisor, and then
went into the Sit Room for discussion with his foreign policy team on
the situation in Kenya and in Tanzania.  The President used the
opportunity first to thank his foreign policy team and to ask them in
turn to thank all those both on the ground in Nairobi and Dar es
Salaam and others who have worked so tirelessly in response to the
attacks on Friday.

	     He received an update from Under Secretary of State
Pickering on the current situation on the ground in Africa.  We have
between 600 and 800 agents on the ground now doing the hard work not
only of assisting the injured, tending to the families, and seeing
what we can do to help the people of Kenya and Tanzania, as well as
conducting the investigation.  The Attorney General and her team
updated the President on the status of the investigation.  Obviously,
it's not something we're going to go into here.

	     But at the conclusion of the meeting, the President
asked the State Department in conjunction with OMB to review what
will be required to reconstitute the embassies in Nairobi and Dar
es Salaam, to assess the costs of the continuing emergency response
that we have in Africa and to evaluate and come back with the list of
the priorities for improving our security, particularly at high-risk
posts around the world.  And we would expect the President to receive
a report from the State Department and OMB in the next few days.  And
he will consult with Congress, in the meantime, looking towards the
prospect of an emergency supplemental on those security steps that we
need to take.

	     Q	  P.J., what do you make of the report of these
arrests in Nairobi?


	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  David, we're aware of the reports.  I
think one of the things that the Attorney General briefed the
President on during the course of his trip -- or during the course of
the meeting, I'm sorry -- was the fact that we have had outstanding
cooperation from both the governments of Kenya and Tanzania from the
outset following these attacks.  And they are cooperating fully in
the investigation.  We have had access and would expect to have
access to all of the suspects that have been detained in conjunction
with last Friday's events.

	     Q	  If I could follow up, P.J., is there a break -- do
you think there has been a break in this with those arrests, or is
this more just a roundup, as you talked about last week?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  David, I think there's no way of
assessing at this point.  We expect and will have access to interview
these suspects and we'll evaluate that as part of the investigation.

	     Q	  You've already had access or you're going to have
access?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I think -- we have had access.  These
are not -- if this is true, these are not the first suspects that
have been detained.  We have been impressed with the access we've had
throughout the investigation since last Friday and we expect that to
continue.

	     Q	  If the Senate gets around to appropriating more
money, how quickly, realistically, do you think it can be done and
how quickly can you implement greater security?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I think those are exactly the kinds of
questions the President asked during the course of his meeting and
we'd expect to have those kinds of response in the next few days.

	     Q	  Any suspicion of the motivation, or was this a
Muslim cult of some sort?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I think, Helen, you'd be asking me to
speculate about that.  This is all the kinds of things that are
underway as part of the investigation.

	     Q	  You have no motivation at all, and no threats,
nothing that would have led --

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  Other than going back to where we were
on Friday.  You know, obviously, this was a coordinated attack.
Obviously, it was aimed at the United States.  And beyond that I
think this is all a matter to be investigated.

	     Q	  The money you talked about, the emergency
supplemental for security -- will there be money to rebuild these two
embassies and what's the President's idea on that?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I think that's exactly the kind of
thing he asked the State Department and OMB to come back.  Obviously,
we want to reconstitute these embassies as quickly as possible.
Obviously, it's a clear statement that we want to make both to the
perpetrators of this attack and to the world that we are not going to
create a fortress America, we're not going to retreat from the world.
The world still looks to us for leadership and we will be there when
it's required.

	     Q	  Does the President feel that there's any need for a
new law or change in policy in order to bring the perpetrators to
justice?


	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  This is one of the things actually
that we've anticipated in recent years, the emergence of terrorism as
a major global threat, and we've taken a number of steps including
implementation of a number of laws to give our law enforcement
agencies the best tools possible in order to address terrorism as the
threat of the '90s and will be, I think, the threat into the next
century.  Just for one example, new laws that restrict fundraising
within the United States as aiding and abetting terrorism, to try to
cut back on the resources that these groups would have at their
disposal.

	     Q	  Well, if I may follow up, I have in mind
specifically the question of whether U.S. law and policy should
change so that if we apprehend terrorists overseas they could be
executed, assassinated.

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I think these are the types of things
the President raised in his meeting today, what are the lessons
learned and the implications of these bombings, and what kind of
steps do we need to take both in terms of physical security and other
steps that will help us give law enforcement the tools that they need
in order to address this in the future.

	     Q	  Just so it doesn't go too far, though, I mean,
you're not suggesting that the President of the United States
discussed potential assassinations?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  No.  Right -- thank you.  No.
Obviously, we have worked hard -- (laughter) -- maybe you should come
up here, I should go back there, we'll do better at this.  We have
seen terrorism as an emerging global threat among various
transnational threats where there are rogue groups that, rather than
try to address America where its strengths lie, they're addressing
America in other ways.  And we have anticipated this.  We have
already taken major steps in recent years in terms of laws, in terms
of restructuring the federal government to be able to anticipate
counterterrorism efforts, to be able to counteract and combat these
threats before they occur, but also to be able to respond more
appropriately and better if we have situations like we did on Friday
where they do happen.  And I would expect that effort to continue,
without getting into specifics about what that would be.

	     Q	  Are we in a state of war -- we have a war on drugs.
Are we in a state of war against terrorism, or does that require a
declaration in order for us to fight?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I think we see terrorism as the
emergent threat of the '90s.  It will be the major threat that
America faces globally into the next century.

	     Q	  Are we in a state of war against it so that we can
fight these people if we can't apprehend them?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I think we recognize the dangers and
we're taking appropriate steps to address them.

	     Q	  P.J., did the President make any decisions today,
or did he simply listen to all the briefings?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I think primarily this was an
information briefing.  He was very active, very engaged in terms of
the situation on the ground in Africa, some of the implications of
last week's bombings and obviously set in motion a process where the
interagency will come back with some specific recommendations on
improving security around the world and he would receive those in the
next few days.

	     Q	  Did you sit in on them, the briefings?

	     Q	  Sir, did the President raise at the meeting the
issue that several embassies have been closed recently, and is he
concerned of how that may be perceived worldwide?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I think in a broad sense, Under
Secretary Pickering updated him on the response to the bombings in
Africa.  I think that probably would involve just the security steps
that we have taken.  They had a discussion of some of the additional
measures that were being contemplated.  I can't tell you whether that
was specifically mentioned.

	     Q	  As a result of today's meeting, does the President
have a better idea of the perpetrators?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  To the extent that he was updated on
the status of the investigation.  I won't get into specifics about
what we know or what he was told at that point.

	     Q	  Can you more fully address the impact of the
closing of certain diplomatic facilities and the restrictions of some
operations and how long that might be expected to continue, and what
impact the might have on U.S. citizens abroad or foreign residents
wanting consular services.

	     Q	  He just asked that.

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  All right, let me answer that more
broadly.  Yesterday, the State Department went into great detail
about the specific steps they've taken with respect to five posts
that they assess that have taken kind of a temporary suspension as
they work out additional security measures.  I think it's safe to say
both from a diplomatic standpoint and from a military standpoint that
ambassadors, commanders around the world are assessing their security
measures in light of last Friday's attacks, and taking appropriate
security steps.

	     The context of temporarily suspending operations in five
posts was taken within the context of giving the embassy kind of a
time-out, so to speak, so they could take some prudent measures in
light of last Friday's events.  But this in no way signals that
America is planning to retreat from the world.

	     Q	  The security that you're talking about, improving
security at other embassies in the supplemental or whatever efforts
you now make -- are those things that you wanted to do before that
Congress would not provide the money for?  What is it that you're
doing that you hadn't already tried to do?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  What the President asked for was a
kind of, in priority, a list of those short-term to medium-term
security measures that could be taken where perhaps they had not been
undertaken to this point because of a shortfall in funding, and what
steps could prudently be taken around the world that would improve
security overall around the world at our embassies.

	     Q	  You mean, the things that Congress had refused to
give you the money for?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  Well, things where resources had not
been available to fully do all the things -- we've had a systematic
effort throughout the '80s and '90s assessing our diplomatic
security, reviewing at least on an annual basis -- assessing our
security at posts around the world.  Obviously, that process will
intensify in the next few days.  And to the extent that there are
concrete measures that we can take in the short-term, the
medium-term, to improve our worldwide security, these are the kinds
of things the President wants a full report on.

	     Q	  I'm trying to figure out, is this something that
you think that you overlooked, that people weren't aware that there
was this big a threat, or it was something that Congress prevented
you from doing.

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I think you heard from various
briefers last week that we believe our process of evaluating security
has been a good one.  Posts are evaluated based on the perceived
threat.  Lots of security measures have been taken worldwide.  But to
the extent that there are some buildings that were older -- those
buildings, for example, built after 1985, fully incorporate security
measures that were evaluated and recommended in the Inman report.
But he wants an assessment of those things that -- additional steps
that could be taken in light of Friday's attacks.

	     Q	  What are you trying to do that you weren't already
doing?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  These may be things that we'd already
evaluated as being necessary, however, might not have yet been
implemented because of a lack of funding.

	     Q	  Are we getting the full cooperation from
intelligence sources in other countries, intelligence agencies in
other countries that we would expect to get for this kind of thing?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  Let me simply answer that by saying
that part of the effort that we have recognized in combating
terrorism more effectively around the world is to increase
international cooperation.  I've heard of no problems that we've
encountered thus far.  I think we, along with our allies and friends
around the world, recognize terrorism as an emerging threat and we
are cooperating fully and taking appropriate steps.

	     Q	  Is there a concern that the perpetrators in these
two bombings might strike again?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I think that we recognize that
terrorism is a continuing threat that we always have to try to
combat, evaluate, and be able to effectively preclude those attacks
where we can or respond effectively to them if we can't.

	     Q	  Do U.S. investigators believe that they have found
the vehicle used in the bombing in Nairobi?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  David, I think it's not appropriate
for me here to do a play-by-play in the investigation.  I think
you'll just have to let the investigators do their work out there and
when we have things we can share with you, we will.

	     Q	  Can you just clarify one thing on the suspects?
You were saying at the top the U.S. investigators have interviewed
the people who have been arrested in Kenya?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I cannot speak for this latest report
of new suspects being arrested.  To the extent that there have been
suspects arrested beginning on Friday and over the weekend, we have
had full access to those suspects, and we would expect that any
future suspects arrested by Tanzania authorities or by Kenya
authorities we would have the complete cooperation that they have
shown us this far.

	     Q	  Suspects in both countries?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I believe there have been suspects
arrested in both countries.

	     Q	  And you have interviewed -- have American
investigators interviewed them?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  Yes.

	     Q	  You said the President had asked for
recommendations and expected some answers in the next few days.  What
specifically is he asking for, and when we will get these answers?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  He's asking for what short-term or
medium-term additional security measures could be implemented at
posts worldwide, but more specifically at what we would assess to be
high-risk posts in light of Friday's attacks.  And he would expect to
have that kind of response from the State Department and OMB in the
next few days.

	     Q	  Sir, besides the discussion about improving
security, did the President ask Defense Secretary Cohen about
possible military options should the investigation reach a rapid
conclusion?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I'm not aware of that kind of briefing
this morning.

	     Q	  To follow up on Larry's question, which isn't
really facetious, this is a country that believes in capital
punishment.  Innocent Americans and Africans were killed.  How would
the U.S. look toward other countries assassinating or taking out
foreigners who were involved in this?  I'm serious, now, it's a
serious question.

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I think that you're getting way down
the road here in terms of if we have suspects, if they eventually
prove to be a part of these attacks who would have jurisdiction.
These are all elements that will be reviewed by law enforcement
officials as we go through the investigation.

	     Q	  P.J., are you aware of the article in the Israeli
newspaper about Israeli security officials telling the United States
not to trust a warning that the U.S. got from a source about an
imminent attack on the U.S. embassy in Nairobi?  And if so, what's
your reaction to the article?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I'm aware of that article, but again,
warnings, specific information, what we may or may not have known at
the time of the attack is also subject to the investigation.  I'm not
going to comment on it.

	     Q	  Let me take one more stab at Larry's original --
can you state for us exactly what U.S. policy is in regard to
assassination, not of head of state but of potential terrorists now,
and whether it's under review?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  Let me take that question.  I just
don't know the answer.

	     Q	  You say that what the President wants is an
assessment of what the high-risk sites are.  But the original
explanation that we got for this bombing was that it was precisely
because they were targets of opportunity in places that were thought
not be high risk that they were attacked.  So how does assessing
high-risk targets prevent something like this from happening?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I think that what we have done
prudently, from a diplomatic standpoint and from a military
standpoint is simply, in light of what we know about the attacks on
Friday, we're asking our posts around the world to evaluate their
security measures and to take those additional measures that are
appropriate.  But we can also calculate that there are places around
the world in dangerous places, dangerous capitals, that if there are
things that, in light of these attacks, that we can do, that's the
type of feedback the President wants to receive from the State
Department and he'll get those answers in the next couple of days.

	     Q	  Well, will he be told that there was a breakdown in
intelligence, where we actually got a warning and didn't heed to it?


	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  Helen, I think you just have to let
the investigation take its course.

	     Q	  Usually you never tell those things --

	     Q	  It will leak.

	     Q	  Is Congress being briefed on the status of the
investigation and on what the administration may want from them
further?  And who are you talking to over on the Hill?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  The President indicated in his meeting
today with his foreign policy team that, just as the State Department
and OMB are evaluating what additional security measures could be
taken, he will be consulting with leadership in Congress to see what
kind of action could be taken on an expedited basis once they return
from recess.

	     Q	  And they haven't been consulted with at this point,
the congressional leadership?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I think the President will discuss
this with the leadership, see what the prospects are for an emergency
supplemental, based on the feedback he gets from the State Department
on his directive today, once Congress returns.

	     Q	  No sense at this point about what the prospects are
for getting that money from Congress?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I think other than there have been
some indications from the congressional leadership that they'll be
very supportive, in light of this.  I think that's the kind of thing
the President will be talking to Congress about.

	     Q	  In this meeting today was there any kind of ranking
for U.S. embassy vulnerability across the country -- I mean, in the
world?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  Again, that's the kind of thing that
the President asked the State Department to come back to -- is
exactly those kinds of -- assess the additional risks that we
perceive in light of these attacks and what steps we should take as
quickly as possible to improve security around the world.  So to the
extent that the state Department might access specific needs in
specific posts that have not yet been implemented, these are the
kinds of information the President is expecting to get from State in
the next couple of dates.

	     Q	  What kind of overall vulnerability ranking would
you say right now at this point -- vulnerability for another attack
for any other embassies in the world.

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I think we recognize terrorism as an
ongoing threat to our diplomatic posts around the world.  We have had
a very intensive system of evaluating security through the years, and
particularly in the last decade or so.  Many of those steps have
already been taken.  And the President asked today for what
additional measures that we could take in the short-term and he'll
expect that report from State in the next couple of days.

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	     Q	  You won't tell us whether there was a specific
threat against the embassy in Nairobi; I can understand that.  Will
you tell us, was the President informed that the American ambassador
to Nairobi had specifically and recently complained about the poor
security at her embassy?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I'm not aware of that level of
discussion.  But again, on the broad topic, that's part of the
investigation.

	     Q	  Can I ask you a follow on that point?  The question
is whether or not, on the medium- and short-term security measures
you're talk about the President seeking, is it the case that you
previously tried to do these things and could not get the money from
Congress, or are these things you just thought of?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  We have had a very intensive review of
security worldwide in recent years in light of the increase in
terrorism globally.  We have gone through a systematic program of
upgrading embassies and particularly incorporating upgrades into new
construction.  But systematic also means that progress has been made
and there is also progress to be made.  So what the President asked
for was, in light of restrictions in funding that has perhaps not
allowed us to make these improvements at a pace that we would like,
what are our top priorities in terms of things that could be done and
could be done perhaps more quickly should additional funding be
available to improve security around the world.

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	     Q	  On the unspecified threat that was received in
Kenya, is it true that that did talk about -- it was from another
intelligence source and it did talk about perhaps an Islamic group
staging an attack in Kenya, not necessarily against an embassy?  And
also, is it a coincidence that there are large Islamic populations in
Yemen, Malaysia, and Egypt?  Is there some connection here with some
of the threats you're receiving?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  Any answer I would give you, Eileen,
would be based on speculation.  Other than any answer I would give
you on warnings would be subject of the investigation.  I just can't
go down that road.

	     Q	  Do you have any credence to this report about the
Iranian ambassadors having been withdrawn two weeks before, their
ambassadors to Kenya and Tanzania?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  If the Iranian ambassador were
withdrawn for any reason, it would be up to the Iranian government to
explain the reasons for that.

	     Q	  You mentioned that there was not quite enough
funding to change these embassies over as quickly as the
administration would like.  Is that because Congress failed to
appropriate enough?  Did the administration seek more funding than
was actually appropriated?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I think it's fair to say that we have
been concerned for a number of years about the lack of money to fully
fund our diplomatic program around the world.  What the President
asked his foreign policy team is to assess, in light of restricted
funding, what we could on an expedited basis to improve security
around the world.

	     Q	  But is it less money than the administration
actually asked for?  Is this Congress's fault that there wasn't
enough money?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I think we have been asking for
additional funding to make sure that the United States is able to
play its global leadership role.  Full funding for our diplomatic
programs or foreign policy is essential to that.

	     Q	  On the bombing investigation, is there anything
about the investigation so far that would lend any sort of hope that
early progress can be made?  In other words, is the investigation at
this point in any way different from previous terrorist attacks that
you may have more data, what with reports of the vehicle against the
wall or suspects being questioned?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  Again, I think it's very difficult for
me to do a play-by-play of the investigation.  We'll just have to let
it take its course.

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	     Q	  You've said that the governments of Kenya and
Tanzania are being very cooperative in the investigation, and I know
that Israel is helping to contribute to the investigation as well.
Are we seeking assistance from the Saudis in this investigation,
since they obviously have a great deal of experience in situations
like this as well?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I think to the extent that one of the
keys to combating global terrorism will be seeking greater
cooperation not just from the immediate victims of this attack, but
overall from various governments around the world, if we have a need
for support from various governments around the world, I would
imagine that would be forthcoming.

	     Q	  Indonesia is a Moslem country.  Any indication of
any special threats or trouble ahead over there for us?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I can think of -- I think the
Indonesians have experienced their share of both social turbulence
and also economic turbulence.  I'm not aware that that is related to
this issue.

	     Q	  Thank you.

	     Q	  Great brief.  Well done.

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	     Q	  Thank you.

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