The White House Briefing Room


August 7, 1998

PRESS BRIEFING BY COLONEL P.J. CROWLEY AND BARRY TOIV





                           THE WHITE HOUSE

                    Office of the Press Secretary
______________________________________________________________
For Immediate Release                            August 7, 1998


                          PRESS BRIEFING BY
                       COLONEL P.J. CROWLEY
                           AND BARRY TOIV


                        The Briefing Room


1:43 P.M. EDT



	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  Good afternoon.  Welcome to the White
House, Friday afternoon.  Just to bring you up to date on what has
transpired since you heard from the President a little while ago, he
has had the opportunity to talk to our chief diplomats in both
Nairobi and Dar es Salaam.  He first talked to John Lange, the Charge
in Tanzania, and then to Prudence Bushnell, the Ambassador in
Nairobi.  He expressed again on behalf of the American people our
thoughts and prayers to the American community during this difficult
day and its aftermath.  He expressed to them both our willingness to
provide whatever assistance we can, and I'll talk about some
assistance that is about to get underway and head for Africa in a
moment.  He again expressed his determination that we will
ultimately, in cooperation with the two host governments, find out
who is responsible for this attack and bring them to justice.

	     He had the opportunity to hear from the two diplomats in
terms of the situation on the ground there and for most of those
details -- I know you have many questions about the status on the
ground.  I think the State Department later on in the day will have a
more detailed briefing of what has transpired there.

	     And the two Ambassadors spoke in glowing terms about the
response of the American community in both countries, the fact that,
as I think Ambassador Bushnell spoke about the American community in
Nairobi in particular -- they are performing as true Americans, very
tough, trying to help steady the situation on the ground there.  And
they spoke glowingly about the response that they've received from
other countries, particularly the embassy staffs in both cities, who
have offered tremendous assistance both in terms of helping with the
humanitarian needs that exist on the ground and also with the
security requirements.  So each of those conversations lasted about
10 minutes.

	     Throughout the day the President has been fully engaged
on this issue, starting at 5:30 a.m. this morning, when he was first
briefed by the National Security Advisor, Sandy Berger.  He has had
update briefings through the course of the morning and into the
afternoon.  Sandy is chairing a principals committee meeting as we
speak to review the situation and what we know.  And I would expect
later on this afternoon the President will probably have the
opportunity to talk with the Presidents of both Tanzania and Kenya,
both to thank them for the initial response that they have provided
in response to this attack, also to express our condolences to each
country because, while it's clear that this attack was directed at
our facilities in each city, the death toll and the injuries have
primarily been borne by the citizens of Kenya and Tanzania.  And I
think you can expect that the President will stay engaged in this
issue throughout the weekend.


	     Q	  What can you tell us about the reported shootout at
the U.S. embassy in Kenya just before the explosion?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I have no information on that.

	     Q	  How many American casualties?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  Helen, I think, if you don't mind,
I'll defer to the State Department on that, primarily because we are
in the process of notifying next of kin.  We have, as the President
said, had several Americans killed in Nairobi as a result of this
attack.  We are not aware of any Americans killed in Tanzania.  But
I'll defer to the State Department later on to provide those kinds of
numbers.

	     Q	  Is there still no claim of responsibility?  Do we
have any idea who did this, who's responsible?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I'm not aware of any public claim of
responsibility.  Obviously, we are already underway in terms of
investigating what has transpired.

	     In connection with that, within the hour we should have
an aircraft leaving Germany with medical supplies and a small
security team, surgical team that will be on its way to Nairobi to
provide some assistance to our American community there.  We also
have other medical evacuation aircraft on standby in the event that
they are needed.  We have an interagency team that consists of
communication experts, counterterrorism experts, investigators,
additional security personnel that will be departing shortly and
heading to the region to help spearhead the investigation.

	     Q	  The surgical team is on the same plane?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  The surgical team, no.  We have a
worldwide response to this.  We have Marines coming from the Central
Command region that will help provide security as well.  So there are
lots of things that are in the process of getting in train to respond
to the requirements we have on the ground in both Nairobi and Dar es
Salaam.

	     Q	  P.J., is the administration aware of the Islamic
Jihad message that was sent from Egypt to Agence France yesterday
that complained about three of its militants being extradited from
Eastern Europe and pledging to punish the United States for that?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  Scott, let me just say that terrorism
is a fact of life in the world today.  We are very conscious of
threats against American facilities, against American people, around
the world.  We take those threats very seriously.  It's not my place
here to get into any particulars.  These aspects will be thoroughly
investigated and, as the President expressed, we are determined that
we will find out who did this and we will bring them to justice.
We've had some success: some cases that you've heard about, some
cases you haven't heard about.  We don't forgive.  We don't forget.
And ultimately, whoever is responsible for this attack will brought
to justice.

	     Q	  P.J., that note that I mentioned, though, is there
any particular reason to give it a higher degree of credibility than
anything else?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I expect that we will thoroughly
investigate this.  I'm certain that we have some ideas already as to
who might be responsible.  It's not my place to cite that information
here -- lots of it touches on intelligence matters.  Threats that we
get against Americans every day around the world we take very
seriously, we take appropriate security precautions.  But terrorism
is a fact of life.  It's something that has reared its ugly head
before, and I'm afraid it will again.

	     Q	  What's the President's thinking about the security
at embassies around the world?  And does he think it's adequate, or
does he think more needs to be done?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  It's very difficult to give a blanket
response to that.  Obviously, say, in recent years we have
experienced terrorist attacks around the world.  It's something that
the administration has had as one of its highest priorities since the
Clinton administration started, and even as a United States
government priority before that.

	     For example, just in May, if you recall the President's
speech at Annapolis, he talked about emerging global transnational
threats of which terrorism is perhaps the most significant.  We have
through the years taken tremendous precautions to try to upgrade our
security at facilities around the world, at embassies around the
world.  And we will continue to do so.

	     By the same token, this appears to have been a very
well-coordinated, very well-planned attack, clearly no the work of
amateurs.  And there is, unfortunately, at the end of the day only so
much you can do to guard against terrorist attacks.

	     Q	  I guess my question is, these two embassies were
chosen and others weren't.  Is there some reason to believe that
these two embassies were less secure or less protected than others?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I think again, that's the kind of
information that the State Department, the folks who are responsible
for diplomatic security -- will be a part of their briefing this
afternoon.  I think that's the kind of detail that I would probably
defer to them.

	     Q	  P.J., has in the past been any inklings of any
problems in Tanzania and Kenya?  Both countries seem to have great
relations with the U.S.  Has there been any --

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I mean, it's entirely possible, going
back to Mara's question, that sometimes facilities are selected
primarily because you have -- you would not expect to have that kind
of problem in one place and not another.  I mean, this is the kind of
thing that will be investigated.

	     Q	  As we follow up on what I think you called hunches
earlier about who might be responsible, has the United States
contacted any other governments for help in either trying to find
certain individuals or touching base with certain organizations?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  We have already launched our
investigation.  I am sure that we are checking within the
intelligence community to see what we know, what other governments
where we have had some success in the past may know.  Again, this
will be something that we will thoroughly investigate as we go
forward.  I would expect that the President may well make some future
calls to heads of state to follow up on this.

	     Q	  P.J., what sort of cooperation do you expect from
Tanzania and Kenya on this investigation?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  We've had some excellent cooperation
so far.  They have helped us in terms of securing the site.
Obviously, one of the keys to the investigation will be preserving
evidence on the scene so that when our experts get there, they will
have the full resources available to be able to conduct their
investigation -- looking at situations like Oklahoma City, for
example, where even the tiniest fragment of evidence ultimately is
the key that unlocks the door that leads to a successful
investigation.  So these will be the kinds of things that are
happening on the ground right now in terms of securing the site so
that the evidence will be there when the experts arrive.

	     Q	  When will those experts arrive?  Is that the FBI
team that's on its way, or can you tell us a little more --

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  It will be the interagency team; the
FBI will be involved, other investigators, other experts in the area
of counter-terrorism.  Again, we are determined and we will do
everything that we need to do.  We will leave no stone unturned until
we find out who is responsible.

	     Q	  Are they on their way now, those experts?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  If they haven't physically -- if they
aren't wheels up yet, they should be shortly.

	     Q	  On another subject, slightly, are we aware of a new
secret guided missile that Israel was firing at Lebanon?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I have not heard that information.

	     Q	  There is a -- could you try to find out?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I'll see what I can find out.

	     Q	  You say they will be brought to justice.  The
record in the past of bombings against our embassies overseas has not
been one of being able to bring anyone to justice.  I know that when
Klinghoffer (sp) was pushed into the ocean, we forced an Egyptian
airliner down, but then Italy let the people go.  What makes you
believe that somehow this time we're going to be able to find these
people and bring them to justice?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I think it's very premature, but I can
-- I don't want to get into too many specifics, but you had the case
of the killer of the CIA employees outside of Langley, you've had the
case of an aircraft bomber Rashid who we have recently brought to
justice.  So the President is very determined about this.  As I said,
we do not forgive; we do not forget.  This very well could take a
number of years.  But we will find out who did this, and we will
bring them to justice.

	     Q	  P.J., did anyone U.S. installation anywhere in the
world receive a warning that there was a reason to believe that a
terrorist threat was imminent?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  Scott, we're aware of terrorist
threats every day around the world.  I will --

	     Q	  Any special message in the last, say, 72 hours that
there was something afoot anywhere?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  Again, these are the types of things
that we will investigate thoroughly.  I think it's very difficult for
me here to judge what information was available worldwide.  All I can
tell you is the intelligence community sees this as one of the
highest threats, the preeminent threat that we perhaps face in the
world today.  We devote a great deal of attention to it.  We take
threats very seriously.  When we do gauge threats as serious, we put
out appropriate warnings to facilities around the world.  In fact,
since this attack, we have taken appropriate steps both in the region
and around the world in light of the two bombings today.

	     Q	  P.J., the question is did any such message as you
just described go out in the last several days?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  Again, I cannot comment on any
specific information at this point from this podium.

	     Q	  You're saying you don't know or you can't say?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I'm not going to say.

	     Q	  P.J., what do you say to suggestions that cutbacks
to the State Department's budget in recent years may have undermined
security or the ability to monitor threats to U.S. installations
overseas?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I think as a large issue, we have been
concerned overall about the amount of resources that are devoted to
conducting our foreign policy.  And I think Secretary State Albright
and others have been very vocal on the Hill in expressing concerns.
I think I'll defer to the State Department to address any specifics
in terms of the specific aspect of our foreign policy budget that may
be devoted to security.  I don't feel I'm qualified to do that.  But,
obviously, it is an issue that we have been concerned about, that
over the years the amount of resources devoted to foreign policy and
the conduct of our diplomacy have been cut back.

	     Q	  Just on a related question, there was a study of
embassy security in the early-mid 1980s after the Beirut attacks.  A
number of embassies were either reconstructed or remodeled with extra
security.  Do you know if these two embassies were part of that
program?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I do know that security reviews have
been conducted at all of our embassies around the world.  These two
embassies did not have the setbacks that perhaps other embassies
around the world have had.  I can't judge at this point how that
might have contributed to the attack.

	     Q	  When was the last security review?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  Again, probably -- I'll defer to the
State Department; it's their diplomatic security, it's their normal
review of security at all of their posts around the world.

	     Q	  You don't know if it's yearly, or you don't know --

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I think Pat Kennedy, for example, will
be among those who will be at this briefing this afternoon.

	     Q	  P.J., to follow up, these were not sort of the
fortress-like embassies that one might see in Jordan or some other
countries where they're way back from the road, there are huge walls?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I think it's safe to say that we set
the security at particular posts based on the threat that we know at
any particular time.  But again, I'll push this to State.  I think
they're much more qualified to respond.

	     Q	  One of the complaints of the intelligence agency is
that when they come across information and pass it along, some claim
that it doesn't get proper consideration in the administration here.

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I can't think of an ambassador, I
can't think of a commander, who wouldn't act appropriately when given
prompt information from the intelligence community on a specific
threat.  I don't have anything to say that that was the case in this
particular instance.

	     Q	  Is there any information as yet as to what type of
explosives, how it was delivered, anything from that review that
would lead you to believe, a guess or a source of where it might come
from?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  At this point, I think, obviously, the
attack only happened earlier this morning.  I think those are the
kinds of issues that will be thoroughly investigated as soon as our
experts get on the ground.

	     Q	  Is the U.S. going to head the investigations and
the Tanzanians and Kenyans have agreed to that?

	     COLONEL CROWLEY:  I think both countries have agreed to
cooperate fully.  Part of what -- each of diplomats told the
President in the call today that they will pledge full cooperation.
I think, as you know, embassies are a sovereign territory of the
United States, so I think we will have the ability to do the
investigation.

	     Q	  Next.

	     MR. TOIV:  Hi.  Any questions?

	     Q	  Is the President meeting with his attorneys today?

	     MR. TOIV:  I don't know.  He'll be meeting with them
frequently between now and the 17th, but I don't know if he's meeting
with them today.

	     Q	  What is on the President's schedule this afternoon?

	     MR. TOIV:  If they come in, I'm sure you'll see them.
There's no remaining public schedule today.

	     Q	  Does the President have any reaction to yesterday's
reported testimony by Ms. Lewinsky?

	     MR. TOIV:  No.  The President, as he said last Friday,
is not going to have any comment on this situation between now and
the 17th.

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