DATE=1/14/98 TYPE=BACKGROUND REPORT NUMBER=5-38669 TITLE=UNABOMB SUSPECT CRAZY? BYLINE=JIM MALONE DATELINE=WASHINGTON CONTENT= VOICED AT: INTRO: IN CALIFORNIA, THE MAN ACCUSED OF BEING THE SO-CALLED UNABOMBER CONTINUES TO UNDERGO PSYCHIATRIC TESTS TO DETERMINE IF HE IS MENTALLY COMPETENT TO STAND TRIAL. DEFENDANT TED KACZYNSKI WANTS TO FIRE HIS COURT-APPOINTED LEGAL TEAM AND ACT AS HIS OWN LAWYER DURING THE MURDER TRIAL, WHICH HAS BEEN SUSPENDED UNTIL NEXT WEEK. ALL OF THIS BEGS THE QUESTION -- WHEN IS SOMEONE CONSIDERED CRAZY IN THE EYES OF THE LAW? IT IS A HOT TOPIC OF DEBATE AMONG LEGAL EXPERTS IN THIS COUNTRY, AND V-O-A NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT JIM MALONE HAS A SAMPLING OF OPINION. TEXT: TED KACZYNSKI STANDS ACCUSED OF BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR AN 18-YEAR CAMPAIGN OF BOMBINGS AROUND THE UNITED STATES WHICH KILLED THREE PEOPLE AND WOUNDED 29 OTHERS. THE ACCUSED UNABOMBER IS NOW UNDERGOING PSYCHIATRIC TESTS BY A COURT-APPOINTED EXPERT IN SACREMENTO, CALIFORNIA, TO DETERMINE IF HE IS MENTALLY COMPETENT TO STAND TRIAL AND IF HE IS ABLE TO DEFEND HIMSELF AS HE HAS REQUESTED. NO ONE DOUBTS TED KACZYNKSI'S INTELLIGENCE BUT MANY LEGAL EXPERTS SAY HE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO DEFEND HIMSELF IN A MURDER TRIAL WHERE HE COULD BE SENTENCED TO DEATH IF CONVICTED. NOTED DEFENSE ATTORNEY AND HARVARD UNIVERSITY LAW PROFESSOR ALAN DERSHOWITZ WAS ASKED ABOUT MR. KACZYNSKI'S DEMAND TO REPRESENT HIMSELF ON THE NBC TODAY PROGRAM. HE SAYS THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMEONE FOUND COMPETENT TO STAND TRIAL AND A DEFENDANT WHO IS DEEMED CAPABLE OF REPRESENTING HIMSELF IN A MURDER TRIAL. /// DERSHOWITZ ACT. /// BUT TO BE ABLE TO REPRESENT YOURSELF (AT A TRIAL) YOU HAVE TO KNOW MORE THAN JUST UNDERSTAND (WHAT IS GOING ON). YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE JUDGEMENT CALLS. I HAD A CASE RECENTLY WHERE A MAN REPRESENTED HIMSELF WHO WAS OBVIOUSLY CRAZY AND HE TALKED HIMSELF RIGHT INTO THE DEATH PENALTY. IT WAS REVERSED ON APPEAL, FORTUNATELY. BUT THESE STANDARDS (COMPETENT TO STAND TRIAL AND COMPETENT TO DEFEND ONESELF) OUGHT TO BE SEPARATED. /// END ACT. /// IF THE JUDGE IN THE CASE DETERMINES THAT MR. KACZYNSKI IS COMPETENT TO STAND TRIAL, HE WILL THEN HAVE TO DECIDE IF THE ACCUSED CAN FIRE HIS LAWYERS AND REPRESENT HIMSELF AS HE HAS DEMANDED. MR. KACZYNSKI DROPPED HIS OPPOSITION TO A PSYCHIATRIC EVALUATION LAST WEEK NOT LONG AFTER HE APPARENTLY TRIED TO HANG HIMSELF IN HIS JAIL CELL. SOME LEGAL ANALYSTS HAVE BEEN CRITICAL OF THE JUDGE IN THE CASE AND SAY THAT THE DEFENDANT HAS EXERCIZED TOO MUCH CONTROL OVER THE PROCEEDINGS AND THREATENS TO TURN THE TRIAL INTO A CIRCUS. FORMER PROSECUTOR NANCY GRACE IS NOW A COMMENTATOR ON THE COURT T-V CABLE NETWORK. SHE WAS ALSO INTERVIEWED ON NBC'S TODAY PROGRAM. /// GRACE ACT. /// I THINK THAT WHAT HE IS DOING IS ONE DELAY TACTIC AFTER THE NEXT. I HAVE SEEN IT MANY TIMES BEFORE. AND OF COURSE, AS ABRAHAM LINCOLN PUT IT, A MAN WHO REPRESENTS HIMSELF HAS A FOOL FOR A CLIENT. I WOULD ADVISE HIM TO USE HIS LAWYERS AND STOP BEING A BRAT. /// END ACT. /// /// OPT /// GOVERNMENT PROSECUTORS HAVE ALREADY REJECTED AN OFFER FROM TED KACZYNSKI TO PLEAD GUILTY TO THE MURDER CHARGES IN EXCHANGE FOR A SENTENCE OF LIFE IN PRISON. THAT WOULD ALLOW MR. KACZYNSKI TO AVOID THE DEATH PENALTY, A POINT OF CONTENTION BETWEEN LEGAL ANALYSTS NANCY GRACE AND ALAN DERSHOWITZ. /// GRACE-DERSHOWITZ ACT. /// GRACE: AND I GUESS FOR US TO ALL SIT BACK AND SAY, 'DEATH PENALTY OR NO DEATH PENALTY' IS WRONG BECAUSE IT IS UP TO, IN MY OPINION, THE STATE AND VICTIM'S FAMILIES AS TO WHAT THEY THINK IS APPROPRIATE. AND HERE THEY APPARENTLY WANT THE DEATH PENALTY AT LEAST AS AN OPTION FOR THAT JURY. DERSHOWITZ: BUT HE (KACZYNSKI) MAY WANT THE DEATH PENALTY TOO AND WE DO NOT ALLOW OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM TO BE USED AS A DOCTOR KEVORKIAN (ASSISTED SUICIDE ACTIVIST) MACHINE, TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO USE IT TO KILL THEMSELVES. IF HE HAS A DEFENSE, SOMEBODY OUGHT TO BE RAISING IT AND HIS DEFENSE OF INSANITY OUGHT TO BE PLACED BEFORE A JURY. /// END ACT. /// /// END OPT /// SOME EXPERTS BELIEVE THAT IN THE END ALL THIS LEGAL MANEUVERING WILL LEAD TO A PLEA BARGAIN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE SUSPECTED UNABOMBER AND PROSECUTORS. FORMER U-S ATTORNEY JOSEPH DEGENOVA MADE THAT PREDICTION ON THE NBC TODAY SHOW. /// DEGENOVA ACT. /// YES, I THINK THE GOVERNMENT UNDERSTANDABLY AND REASONABLY IS LOOKING FOR A PATINA (APPEARANCE) OF COVER HERE AND THE COVER MAY COME IRONICALLY FROM THEIR OWN PSYCHIATRIST WHO WILL FIND THAT WHILE MR. KACZYNSKI IS NOT INSANE, HE DOES HAVE A MENTAL ILLNESS AND THEREFORE THAT IS GOING TO GIVE THE GOVERNMENT THE COVER THEY NEED TO GIVE UP THE DEATH PENALTY AND TAKE THE GUILTY PLEA WHICH I THINK WOULD BE VERY RESPONSIBLE THING FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO DO IN THIS CASE. /// END ACT. /// PROSECUTORS REJECTED A PLEA DEAL EARLIER BECAUSE MR. KACZYNSKI INSISTED THAT HE BE ALLOWED TO WITHDRAW HIS GUILTY PLEA IF AN APPEALS COURT WERE TO RULE THAT POLICE HAD IMPROPERLY SEIZED EVIDENCE FROM THE MONTANA CABIN WHERE HE LIVED. A RULING ON MR. KACZYNSKI'S MENTAL COMPETENCE COULD COME AS EARLY AS JANUARY 22ND. (SIGNED) NEB/JBM/KL 14-Jan-98 1:36 PM EST (1836 UTC) NNNN Source: Voice of America .