[Congressional Record: August 4, 2007 (House)]
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                      PROTECT AMERICA ACT OF 2007

  Mr. REYES. Mr. Speaker, pursuant to the previous order of the House,
I call up the Senate bill (S. 1927) to

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amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 to provide
additional procedures for authorizing certain acquisitions of foreign
intelligence information and for other purposes, and ask for its
immediate consideration.
  The Clerk read the title of the Senate bill.
  The text of the Senate bill is as follows:

                                S. 1927

       Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of
     the United States of America in Congress assembled,

     SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

       This Act may be cited as the ``Protect America Act of
     2007''.

     SEC. 2. ADDITIONAL PROCEDURE FOR AUTHORIZING CERTAIN
                   ACQUISITIONS OF FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE
                   INFORMATION.

       The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50
     U.S.C. 1801 et seq.) is amended by inserting after section
     105 the following:


   ``CLARIFICATION OF ELECTRONIC SURVEILLANCE OF PERSONS OUTSIDE THE
                             UNITED STATES

       ``Sec. 105A.  Nothing in the definition of electronic
     surveillance under section 101(f) shall be construed to
     encompass surveillance directed at a person reasonably
     believed to be located outside of the United States.


``ADDITIONAL PROCEDURE FOR AUTHORIZING CERTAIN ACQUISITIONS CONCERNING
               PERSONS LOCATED OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES

       ``Sec. 105B.  (a) Notwithstanding any other law, the
     Director of National Intelligence and the Attorney General,
     may for periods of up to one year authorize the acquisition
     of foreign intelligence information concerning persons
     reasonably believed to be outside the United States if the
     Director of National Intelligence and the Attorney General
     determine, based on the information provided to them, that--
       ``(1) there are reasonable procedures in place for
     determining that the acquisition of foreign intelligence
     information under this section concerns persons reasonably
     believed to be located outside the United States, and such
     procedures will be subject to review of the Court pursuant to
     section 105C of this Act;
       ``(2) the acquisition does not constitute electronic
     surveillance;
       ``(3) the acquisition involves obtaining the foreign
     intelligence information from or with the assistance of a
     communications service provider, custodian, or other person
     (including any officer, employee, agent, or other specified
     person of such service provider, custodian, or other person)
     who has access to communications, either as they are
     transmitted or while they are stored, or equipment that is
     being or may be used to transmit or store such
     communications;
       ``(4) a significant purpose of the acquisition is to obtain
     foreign intelligence information; and
       ``(5) the minimization procedures to be used with respect
     to such acquisition activity meet the definition of
     minimization procedures under section 101(h).
       ``This determination shall be in the form of a written
     certification, under oath, supported as appropriate by
     affidavit of appropriate officials in the national security
     field occupying positions appointed by the President, by and
     with the consent of the Senate, or the Head of any Agency of
     the Intelligence Community, unless immediate action by the
     Government is required and time does not permit the
     preparation of a certification. In such a case, the
     determination of the Director of National Intelligence and
     the Attorney General shall be reduced to a certification as
     soon as possible but in no event more than 72 hours after the
     determination is made.
       ``(b) A certification under subsection (a) is not required
     to identify the specific facilities, places, premises, or
     property at which the acquisition of foreign intelligence
     information will be directed.
       ``(c) The Attorney General shall transmit as soon as
     practicable under seal to the court established under section
     103(a) a copy of a certification made under subsection (a).
     Such certification shall be maintained under security
     measures established by the Chief Justice of the United
     States and the Attorney General, in consultation with the
     Director of National Intelligence, and shall remain sealed
     unless the certification is necessary to determine the
     legality of the acquisition under section 105B.
       ``(d) An acquisition under this section may be conducted
     only in accordance with the certification of the Director of
     National Intelligence and the Attorney General, or their oral
     instructions if time does not permit the preparation of a
     certification, and the minimization procedures adopted by the
     Attorney General. The Director of National Intelligence and
     the Attorney General shall assess compliance with such
     procedures and shall report such assessments to the Permanent
     Select Committee on Intelligence of the House of
     Representatives and the Select Committee on Intelligence of
     the Senate under section 108(a).
       ``(e) With respect to an authorization of an acquisition
     under section 105B, the Director of National Intelligence and
     Attorney General may direct a person to--
       ``(1) immediately provide the Government with all
     information, facilities, and assistance necessary to
     accomplish the acquisition in such a manner as will protect
     the secrecy of the acquisition and produce a minimum of
     interference with the services that such person is providing
     to the target; and
       ``(2) maintain under security procedures approved by the
     Attorney General and the Director of National Intelligence
     any records concerning the acquisition or the aid furnished
     that such person wishes to maintain.
       ``(f) The Government shall compensate, at the prevailing
     rate, a person for providing information, facilities, or
     assistance pursuant to subsection (e).
       ``(g) In the case of a failure to comply with a directive
     issued pursuant to subsection (e), the Attorney General may
     invoke the aid of the court established under section 103(a)
     to compel compliance with the directive. The court shall
     issue an order requiring the person to comply with the
     directive if it finds that the directive was issued in
     accordance with subsection (e) and is otherwise lawful.
     Failure to obey an order of the court may be punished by the
     court as contempt of court. Any process under this section
     may be served in any judicial district in which the person
     may be found.
       ``(h)(1)(A) A person receiving a directive issued pursuant
     to subsection (e) may challenge the legality of that
     directive by filing a petition with the pool established
     under section 103(e)(1).
       ``(B) The presiding judge designated pursuant to section
     103(b) shall assign a petition filed under subparagraph (A)
     to one of the judges serving in the pool established by
     section 103(e)(1). Not later than 48 hours after the
     assignment of such petition, the assigned judge shall conduct
     an initial review of the directive. If the assigned judge
     determines that the petition is frivolous, the assigned judge
     shall immediately deny the petition and affirm the directive
     or any part of the directive that is the subject of the
     petition. If the assigned judge determines the petition is
     not frivolous, the assigned judge shall, within 72 hours,
     consider the petition in accordance with the procedures
     established under section 103(e)(2) and provide a written
     statement for the record of the reasons for any determination
     under this subsection.
       ``(2) A judge considering a petition to modify or set aside
     a directive may grant such petition only if the judge finds
     that such directive does not meet the requirements of this
     section or is otherwise unlawful. If the judge does not
     modify or set aside the directive, the judge shall
     immediately affirm such directive, and order the recipient to
     comply with such directive.
       ``(3) Any directive not explicitly modified or set aside
     under this subsection shall remain in full effect.
       ``(i) The Government or a person receiving a directive
     reviewed pursuant to subsection (h) may file a petition with
     the Court of Review established under section 103(b) for
     review of the decision issued pursuant to subsection (h) not
     later than 7 days after the issuance of such decision. Such
     court of review shall have jurisdiction to consider such
     petitions and shall provide for the record a written
     statement of the reasons for its decision. On petition for a
     writ of certiorari by the Government or any person receiving
     such directive, the record shall be transmitted under seal to
     the Supreme Court, which shall have jurisdiction to review
     such decision.
       ``(j) Judicial proceedings under this section shall be
     concluded as expeditiously as possible. The record of
     proceedings, including petitions filed, orders granted, and
     statements of reasons for decision, shall be maintained under
     security measures established by the Chief Justice of the
     United States, in consultation with the Attorney General and
     the Director of National Intelligence.
       ``(k) All petitions under this section shall be filed under
     seal. In any proceedings under this section, the court shall,
     upon request of the Government, review ex parte and in camera
     any Government submission, or portions of a submission, which
     may include classified information.
       ``(l) Notwithstanding any other law, no cause of action
     shall lie in any court against any person for providing any
     information, facilities, or assistance in accordance with a
     directive under this section.
       ``(m) A directive made or an order granted under this
     section shall be retained for a period of not less than 10
     years from the date on which such directive or such order is
     made.''.

     SEC. 3. SUBMISSION TO COURT REVIEW AND ASSESSMENT OF
                   PROCEDURES.

       The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50
     U.S.C. 1801 et seq.) is amended by inserting after section
     105B the following:


               ``SUBMISSION TO COURT REVIEW OF PROCEDURES

       ``Sec. 105C.  (a) No later than 120 days after the
     effective date of this Act, the Attorney General shall submit
     to the Court established under section 103(a), the procedures
     by which the Government determines that acquisitions
     conducted pursuant to section 105B do not constitute
     electronic surveillance. The procedures submitted pursuant to
     this section shall be updated and submitted to the Court on
     an annual basis.
       ``(b) No later than 180 days after the effective date of
     this Act, the court established under section 103(a) shall
     assess the Government's determination under section
     105B(a)(1) that those procedures are reasonably designed to
     ensure that acquisitions conducted pursuant to section 105B
     do not constitute electronic surveillance. The court's review
     shall be limited to whether the Government's determination is
     clearly erroneous.

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       ``(c) If the court concludes that the determination is not
     clearly erroneous, it shall enter an order approving the
     continued use of such procedures. If the court concludes that
     the determination is clearly erroneous, it shall issue an
     order directing the Government to submit new procedures
     within 30 days or cease any acquisitions under section 105B
     that are implicated by the court's order.
       ``(d) The Government may appeal any order issued under
     subsection (c) to the court established under section 103(b).
     If such court determines that the order was properly entered,
     the court shall immediately provide for the record a written
     statement of each reason for its decision, and, on petition
     of the United States for a writ of certiorari, the record
     shall be transmitted under seal to the Supreme Court of the
     United States, which shall have jurisdiction to review such
     decision. Any acquisitions affected by the order issued under
     subsection (c) of this section may continue during the
     pendency of any appeal, the period during which a petition
     for writ of certiorari may be pending, and any review by the
     Supreme Court of the United States.''.

     SEC. 4. REPORTING TO CONGRESS.

       On a semi-annual basis the Attorney General shall inform
     the Select Committee on Intelligence of the Senate, the
     Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence of the House of
     Representatives, the Committee on the Judiciary of the
     Senate, and the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of
     Representatives, concerning acquisitions under this section
     during the previous 6-month period. Each report made under
     this section shall include--
       (1) a description of any incidents of non-compliance with a
     directive issued by the Attorney General and the Director of
     National Intelligence under section 105B, to include--
       (A) incidents of non-compliance by an element of the
     Intelligence Community with guidelines or procedures
     established for determining that the acquisition of foreign
     intelligence authorized by the Attorney General and Director
     of National Intelligence concerns persons reasonably to be
     outside the United States; and
       (B) incidents of noncompliance by a specified person to
     whom the Attorney General and Director of National
     Intelligence issue a directive under this section; and
       (2) the number of certifications and directives issued
     during the reporting period.

     SEC. 5. TECHNICAL AMENDMENT AND CONFORMING AMENDMENTS.

       (a) In General.--Section 103(e) of the Foreign Intelligence
     Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1803(e)) is amended--
       (1) in paragraph (1), by striking ``501(f)(1)'' and
     inserting ``105B(h) or 501(f)(1)''; and
       (2) in paragraph (2), by striking ``501(f)(1)'' and
     inserting ``105B(h) or 501(f)(1)''.
       (b) Table of Contents.--The table of contents in the first
     section of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978
     (50 U.S.C. 1801 et seq.) is amended by inserting after the
     item relating to section 105 the following:

``105A. Clarification of electronic surveillance of persons outside the
              United States.
``105B. Additional procedure for authorizing certain acquisitions
              concerning persons located outside the United States.
``105C. Submission to court review of procedures.''.

     SEC. 6. EFFECTIVE DATE; TRANSITION PROCEDURES.

       (a) Effective Date.--Except as otherwise provided, the
     amendments made by this Act shall take effect immediately
     after the date of the enactment of this Act.
       (b) Transition Procedures.--Notwithstanding any other
     provision of this Act, any order in effect on the date of
     enactment of this Act issued pursuant to the Foreign
     Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1801 et
     seq.) shall remain in effect until the date of expiration of
     such order, and, at the request of the applicant, the court
     established under section 103(a) of such Act (50 U.S.C.
     1803(a)) shall reauthorize such order as long as the facts
     and circumstances continue to justify issuance of such order
     under the provisions of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance
     Act of 1978, as in effect on the day before the applicable
     effective date of this Act. The Government also may file new
     applications, and the court established under section 103(a)
     of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50
     U.S.C. 1803(a)) shall enter orders granting such applications
     pursuant to such Act, as long as the application meets the
     requirements set forth under the provisions of such Act as in
     effect on the day before the effective date of this Act. At
     the request of the applicant, the court established under
     section 103(a) of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act
     of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1803(a)), shall extinguish any extant
     authorization to conduct electronic surveillance or physical
     search entered pursuant to such Act. Any surveillance
     conducted pursuant to an order entered under this subsection
     shall be subject to the provisions of the Foreign
     Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1801 et
     seq.), as in effect on the day before the effective date of
     this Act.
       (c) Sunset.--Except as provided in subsection (d), sections
     2, 3, 4, and 5 of this Act, and the amendments made by this
     Act, shall cease to have effect 180 days after the date of
     the enactment of this Act.
       (d) Authorizations in Effect.--Authorizations for the
     acquisition of foreign intelligence information pursuant to
     the amendments made by this Act, and directives issued
     pursuant to such authorizations, shall remain in effect until
     their expiration. Such acquisitions shall be governed by the
     applicable provisions of such amendments and shall not be
     deemed to constitute electronic surveillance as that term is
     defined in section 101(f) of the Foreign Intelligence
     Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1801(f)).

  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Pastor). Pursuant to the order of the
House of today, the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Conyers), the
gentleman from Texas (Mr. Smith), the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Reyes)
and the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Hoekstra) each will control 15
minutes.
  The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Reyes).
  Mr. REYES. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  Mr. Speaker, we bring up tonight the bill that was passed on the
Senate side, S. 1927. Although this bill, in my opinion, is not the
ideal bill, I think it is important that all of us understand that
under the current situation that our country faces with the threat
level being high, it is very important that we do everything that we
can to keep the American people safe, to reassure people that this
Congress is going to do everything it can to provide the administration
the tools to keep us safe and secure.
  Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. SMITH of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may
consume.
  Mr. Speaker, I support S. 1927, the Protect America Act of 2007. We
are a Nation at war with foreign terrorists who are plotting deadly
attacks. Al Qaeda recently released a video promising a big surprise in
the near future. Yesterday, the Senate passed this national security
bill, and the Senate got it right. It is time for the House to do the
same.
  This morning, the President called on the House to pass this critical
bill, stating, ``Protecting America is our most solemn obligation, and
I urge the House to pass this bill without delay.''
  Mr. Speaker, last night we wasted valuable time considering a bill on
the same subject strongly opposed by the Director of National
Intelligence. But that debate did serve a purpose. Now we know where
the majority of the majority stands. Ninety percent of the majority
voted to deny the Director of National Intelligence what he said he
needs to prevent future terrorist attacks.
  The majority claimed that its legislation fixed the problem, knowing
that the Director had publicly opposed the bill because it would not
allow him to carry out his responsibility of protecting the Nation,
especially in our heightened threat environment.
  In the 30 years since Congress enacted the Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Act, telecommunications technology has dramatically
changed. As a result, the intelligence community is hampered in
gathering essential information about terrorists needed to prevent
attacks against America. Congress must modernize FISA to address this
problem.
  The bill, one, clarifies well-established law that neither the
Constitution nor Federal law requires a court order to gather foreign
communications from foreign terrorists; two, adopts flexible procedures
to collect foreign intelligence from foreign terrorists overseas;
three, provides court review of collection procedures for this new
authority; and, four, requires semiannual reports to Congress on the
use of this new authority.
  Unlike the majority's proposal from last night, this bill does not
impose unworkable, bureaucratic requirements that would burden the
intelligence community. Regrettably, the Protect America Act includes a
180-day sunset, but terrorists do not sunset their plots to kill
Americans, so Congress must enact a permanent change in our laws.
  Mr. Speaker, last April, the Director submitted to Congress a
comprehensive proposal to modernize FISA. That proposal already should
have been approved. Congress must enact the Director's proposals from
April to give the intelligence community the additional tools they need
to keep our country safe.
  As we approach the sixth anniversary of the devastating 9/11 attacks,
it is critical that we remain vigilant in our war against terrorism.
President George Washington once said: ``There

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is nothing so likely to produce peace as to be well prepared to meet
the enemy.'' Heeding his words, we must maintain our commitment to
winning the war against terrorism.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to support this bill.
  Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. NADLER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the distinguished
gentlewoman from California (Ms. Zoe Lofgren).
  Ms. ZOE LOFGREN of California. Mr. Speaker, this bill goes far beyond
what is necessary and what was agreed to by the Director of National
Intelligence. All of us agree that foreign-to-foreign communications
need to be available for surveillance. However, this bill would grant
the Attorney General the ability to wiretap anybody, anyplace, anytime,
without court review, without any checks and balances.
  I think that this unwarranted, unprecedented measure would simply
eviscerate the fourth amendment that protects the privacy not of
terrorists, but of Americans.
  I strongly oppose this warrantless surveillance measure. I realize
that in a short period of time, months, we will have an opportunity to
undo the damage that is going to be done here tonight, and I pledge to
America that should this measure pass, I will give it my all to make
sure that we reclaim the fourth amendment in a measure that gains a
vote from Members of Congress and Senators who take their oath of
allegiance to the Constitution more seriously than has happened to
date.
  Mr. SMITH of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the
distinguished gentleman from Missouri (Mr. Blunt), the minority whip.
  Mr. BLUNT. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding, and I am
pleased to see this legislation on the floor this evening. I think it
is critical that we pass this bill today, and many in the majority did
too. I know it is not the bill that many of our friends on the other
side would have liked to have had passed tonight, but I also know that
they understand that there is a huge gap at this moment in the
intelligence that we are watching, that we are gaining, that we are
analyzing. This bill closes that gap.
  Earlier today would have been better to pass this bill. Three weeks
ago would have been better to pass this bill. But I am grateful that we
have a chance before Congress goes into a district work period for a
month to get this critically important piece of legislation passed.
  Three weeks ago, we read the National Intelligence Estimate, if we
wanted to take time to look at that estimate, and it was publicly
stated during that estimate that our terrorist enemies were regrouping,
that their communications had heightened, that their planning appears
to be heightening; and we also understood at that time that we were not
monitoring the communication that we knew we needed to be monitored
because the law hadn't kept up with technology.
  This takes the 1978 law, it provides the same protection for
Americans that they had in 1978 and 1988 and 1998. And now, as we
approach 2008, it just simply lets us have the definitions of the law
meet the technology of the time.
  The Attorney General and the Director of National Intelligence have
to have approval. That is a change, and it is an important change. This
is no longer only one person in the executive branch, but two people,
both of whom have both responsibilities and penalties if they don't
make the right decision under the law.
  This monitors the communication of people who are initiating their
communication in a foreign country. It protects Americans. That is why
the FISA court was created. Americans are still protected under the
FISA court, as they were under the technology of 1978.
  I am pleased to see this on the floor. I am glad that the majority
has agreed with us, that while many of them don't like this piece of
legislation, the gap was too big not to take the bill that could wind
up most quickly now on the President's desk and pass it tonight.
  I urge my colleagues to support this, and I am grateful to my
colleagues for seeing that this gap will not continue between now and
Labor Day.
  Mr. REYES. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 30 seconds to respond to the
gentleman.
  Mr. Speaker, this administration has told us many things, from the
beginning with the weapons of mass destruction, to different issues
that have had us to the point to where we are tonight. We are here
because we are concerned about the safety and well-being of this
country. But a number of Members do believe that we have been told
many, many things that have not been true.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Massachusetts
(Mr. Tierney).
  Mr. TIERNEY. I thank the gentleman for yielding.
  Mr. Speaker, the other body has not acted, in my opinion, this humble
Member's opinion, in a way that warrants great respect of the American
people. It has done not just violence to the fourth amendment and
violence to our civil liberties; it has eviscerated them with the bill
it has sent over here for action.
  The American people have a right to expect more from us. This is the
Protect America Act of 2007. The American people expect to be protected
and to be secure, not just against terrorists and other foreign
threats, but also to be secure in the rights established in the
Constitution of the United States, to know that we are standing up for
the Constitution and fulfilling our pledge and our oath of office.
  This bill does not do this. It purports to provide security, but it
certainly doesn't provide any protections for our constitutional rights
and civil liberties. We should have done better, and we could do
better.
  This administration took the Secretary of State and sent him to the
U.N. on a mission which everyone ended up being ashamed of. Now they
have sent the DNI, I fear, over here to make an agreement and find a
bill that he can live with, under the premise that when he said he
would, the President would sign it. Well, the conversations he had, he
indicated that our bill strengthened the security of this country. But
after a conversation with the White House, that was withdrawn, and now
we end up with a bill that does not protect our civil liberties.
  The fact of the matter is, Mr. Speaker, we can do better and we
should do better. This bill starts off with the words ``notwithstanding
any other law.'' That assumes that notwithstanding the Constitution,
notwithstanding the fourth amendment, notwithstanding our civil
liberties they are giving the authority to a President, a Director of
National Intelligence, and an Attorney General, any Attorney General,
to make decisions that should be made by a court, that should at least
be reviewed by a court.
  We have provided in a Democratic alternative a way to secure that
protection and the security of this country, while still protecting our
rights. The White House saw an opportunity to roll over that into a
bill that is going to be I think regretted by everyone in this Chamber
if they pass it, and it should be regretted in the Senate for what they
did.

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  We are not doing this country any favors. If we think we are going to
correct this in 120 days, when you give up your securities, when you
give up your rights under the Constitution, it is not likely you are
going to regain them.
  As somebody said earlier tonight, your civil liberties don't go in a
loud noise and a clap of thunder and the curtain coming down; they go
quietly with whispers and into the darkness. That is what is happening
with this bill, Mr. Speaker. We will all regret it.
  We should pass a bill that secures this country, certainly and gives
us all of the intelligence that needs to be intercepted, but we should
do it in a way that doesn't sacrifice our civil liberties and the
fourth amendment and our Constitution.
  Mr. SMITH of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman
from Texas (Mr. Gohmert) and a member of the Judiciary Committee.
  Mr. GOHMERT. Mr. Speaker, I do appreciate this bill coming to the
floor. I do not think it is a travesty against our civil rights.
  Some people have some confusion, I think, over civil rights versus
rights in a time of war. Believe it or not, and I think most of you
should understand, we are in a war. We didn't know it in

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1979 when war was declared against us, but we are at war. There are
those in the world who believe that freedom and liberty necessarily
leads to debauchery and degradation. Therefore, we must have a
dictatorial, brutal leader, religious leader that tells us what we can
and can't do. If you don't, then they have the right to cut off your
head and destroy our way of life.
  Now we happen to believe when you declare war against us and you want
to cut off our heads and destroy our way of life, then we have a right
to protect ourselves. In criminal law, it is called self-defense, and
that is an exception to some of the rights others may have. What some
have confused, I think, is civil rights versus rights of those declare
war against your way of life.
  This is not a bill that will allow surveilling American citizens on
American soils. But the message is this: If you declare war on this
country and you are a foreigner, we may just listen in on your
conversations and you can be prepared for that. I have every confidence
because of the oversight that will be coming with Chairman Conyers and
the reports that are required in this bill, if they are not
forthcoming, I expect to see to people held accountable, and I know
Chairman Conyers will make sure that happens. And hopefully some day,
Chairman Smith will be doing the same thing.
  But the message, Mr. Speaker, is clear. You declare war on this
Nation and you are in a foreign country, we may come after you and
listen to what you have to say.
  Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased now to recognize the chairman
of the Constitution Subcommittee in Judiciary, Jerry Nadler of New
York, and I am happy to yield to him 2 minutes.
  Mr. NADLER. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to this dangerous and
ill-considered legislation.
  Once again, this House is being stampeded by fear-mongering and
deception into signing away our rights. If you trust this President and
if you trust this dishonest Attorney General to exercise unfettered
power to spy on Americans without any court supervision, then you
should support this bill.
  If you still believe in the America our Founders, the Framers and
every succeeding generation has fought and died for, then you must
oppose this legislation.
  This bill is not what the Director of National Intelligence told us
he needed. That was embodied in the bill that we considered last night
and that we should be considering tonight, the House bill. We were told
that we needed to fix the foreign-to-foreign intelligence. That bill
fixed it.
  We were told we had to compel electronics companies to do what the
government needs to do on properly authorized surveillance. That bill
did it. The Director of National Intelligence told us we had to deal
with all foreign intelligence, we had to deal with recurring
communications into the United States from foreign targets. That bill
did it. That bill dealt with everything we were told was necessary for
national security.
  This bill is what Karl Rove and his political operatives in the White
House decided they need to win elections. That is not national
security, that is political warfare.
  I do not believe we will soon be able to undo this damage. Rights
given away are not easily regained. This bill is not needed to protect
America from terrorists. * * *
  We should stand up for America. We should stand up for our freedoms.
We should stand up for our security. We should reject this bill so we
can go and do the right thing and pass the bill that we had on the
floor last night that did everything necessary for our national
security. It gave us all the right to do the wiretapping and the
surveillance we need. We should all be willing to stay here as long as
it takes. I urge my colleagues to vote ``no.''
  Mr. ISSA. Mr. Speaker, the gentleman has alleged illegal acts by the
President's administration in his speech. I ask that those words be
taken down.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Clerk will report the words.
  Mr. NADLER. Mr. Speaker, in the interest of our getting home at some
reasonable hour, I will be happy to withdraw the truthful and accurate
statements I made a moment ago.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the
gentleman from New York?
  Mr. ISSA. The gentleman asked to withdraw the what statements? I
couldn't quite hear it.
  Mr. NADLER. Accurate statement I made a moment ago.
  Mr. ISSA. No, he is not withdrawing them if he claims they are
accurate. They are inaccurate.
  Mr. NADLER. I am withdrawing them.
  Mr. ISSA. Is the gentleman withdrawing them without any other
reservation?
  Mr. NADLER. I withdraw them without any reservations; but I retain my
opinion.
  Mr. ISSA. That's fair. Thank you.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without objection, the words are withdrawn.
  There was no objection.
  Mr. SMITH of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman
from Arizona (Mr. Franks) who is a member of the Judiciary Committee
and ranking member of the Constitution Subcommittee.
  Mr. FRANKS of Arizona. Mr. Speaker, 9/11 is the ultimate reminder of
the countless innocent American lives at stake when we miss critical or
e-mail communications between foreign terrorists in foreign countries.
If our national intelligence community is to effectively anticipate
future threats, it must be allowed to keep up with the rapidly evolving
world of telecommunications technology.
  Mr. Speaker, last night in this House, Democrats chose to blatantly
disregard the appeals of both the Director of National Intelligence as
well as those of the FISA courts who have pleaded for a modernization
of the system in order to reduce the needless burden of FISA court
orders for foreign terrorist surveillance.
  Instead, Democrat Members passed a bill that only further immobilizes
our outdated foreign intelligence system.
  Mr. Speaker, whether or not liberal Democrats acknowledge the threat
that we face, that threat is very real, as terrorists themselves
continue to remind us. Al-Manar recently said on BBC: ``Let the entire
world hear me. Our hostility to the great Satan [America] is absolute .
. . Regardless of how the world has changed after 11 September, death
to America will remain our reverberating and powerful slogan: Death to
America.''
  Mr. Speaker, tonight is the last opportunity before leaving
Washington for Members of this House to address the imminent
possibility of a terrorist attack by effectively modernizing our FISA
regulations to provide for the defense of the American people.
  One thing is absolutely clear, Mr. Speaker: Al Qaeda will not rest
when this body adjourns for the August recess. If we do not address the
critical loopholes in our foreign surveillance system tonight, our
children may some day face nuclear jihad, perhaps even in this
generation. And what we will tell them, Mr. Speaker, when they look
back on this day and condemn this generation for unspeakable
irresponsibility in the face of such an obvious threat to human peace.
We must pass this critical bill.
  Mr. REYES. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the chair of the Select
Intelligence Oversight Appropriations panel, the gentleman from New
Jersey (Mr. Holt).
  Mr. HOLT. Mr. Speaker, this tonight is about how our government
treats its people. One of the characteristics of oppressive governments
that we detest throughout history is that they spy on their own people.
The chilling intrusion into people's lives, effects, and relationships
must be controlled even if the government officers think that the
intrusion is necessary to preserve safety, security and order. Indeed,
civil protections are necessary, especially if the government says they
are trying to protect safety, security and order.
  Courts must establish that there is a probable cause to believe an
American is a threat to society, and it must be the courts, not the
Attorney General, not the Director of National Intelligence, who
determine that the standard is being met.
  Let me correct some points. There is not a huge gap. FISA is not
broken. Do not believe these scare tactics. Legislation should not be
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good intelligence to protect Americans, but we are being asked to enter
a ``just trust us'' form of legislation. Just trust an Attorney General
who has provided demonstrably false or misleading testimony before
Congress on this very issue. We are being asked to just trust this
Attorney General with unlimited authority to authorize spying on
Americans through this legislation without oversight of the courts,
even after his own Inspector General has revealed massive abuses of
civil liberties through his department's unchecked use of national
security letters.
  I urge my colleagues to recognize this for the historic importance it
has and vote down this legislation.
  Mr. SMITH of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman
from Illinois (Mr. Kirk), a member of the Appropriations Committee.
  Mr. KIRK. Mr. Speaker, when our foreign wiretap law was enacted in
1978, telephones were plugged into a wall, cell phones did not exist,
and no one had heard of e-mail. Bin Laden was in college and Zawahiri
was in medical school.
  Today, these men are now responsible for the murder of 3,000
Americans. They attacked the embassies in Kenya and Tanzania and nearly
sunk the USS Cole.
  They talk to each other now with cell phones, satellite phones, e-
mail and Internet chat. While they have changed their communications,
our law has not.
  As a currently serving Naval intelligence officer, I am not just a
Congressman, I am also a customer of these programs. Serving on the
House Foreign Operations Subcommittee, we watch foreign matters
closely.
  And look at the issues we will deal with just in August: A reactor
shutdown in North Korea; the Hamas takeover of Gaza; Venezuelan arms
purchases from Iran; a war in Iraq; a war in Afghanistan, the rise of
the Taliban in Pakistan; narcotraffickers in Colombia; genocide in
Darfur. That is just this month's list.
  The bipartisan bill passed by over 60 votes in the Senate. It will
help us learn more about dangers. It doesn't just protect the rights of
Americans. It will protect the lives of Americans.
  Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from
Texas (Ms. Jackson-Lee), a valued member of our committee.
  (Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas asked and was given permission to revise
and extend her remarks).
  Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I thank the distinguished
chairman of the Judiciary Committee and I do applaud him for his
consistent and impeccable commitment to civil liberties and civil
rights.
  Mr. Speaker, this administration has the law to protect the American
people. Let no one come to this floor and suggest that what we are
doing tonight is going to save lives because last night we passed
legislation that indicated that foreign-to-foreign communication had no
barriers, no barriers for those who are seeking intelligence.
  Yet when an American was involved, the Bill of Rights, the fourth
amendment, civil liberties with the underpinnings, and therefore a
court intervened.

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  Homeland security is not a Republican issue. It is an issue for all
Americans--all of us. Not one of us who sang ``God Bless America'' on
the steps of this House will allow anyone to undermine the security of
America.
  The legislation last night offered by the Majority gave the
Administration everything that they needed, but what we're doing here
tonight, we are shredding the Constitution. We are tearing up the Bill
of Rights because we are telling Americans that no matter what your
business is, you are subject to the unscrupulous, undisciplined,
irresponsible scrutiny of the Attorney General and others without court
intervention.
  This is not the day to play politics. It is to important to balance
civil liberties along with the homeland security and the protection
needs of America. I feel confident that the House FISA Bill does do
that.
  Shame on the other body for failing to recognize that we can secure
America by securing the American people with fair security laws and by
giving them their civil liberties.
  I would ask my colleagues to defeat this so that we can go back to
the bill that protects the civil liberties of Americans and provides
homeland security. I ask my colleagues to support the Bill of Rights
and National Security.
  Mr. Speaker, I rise today in strong opposition to S. 1927. Had the
Bush Administration and the Republican-dominated 109th Congress acted
more responsibly in the two preceding years, we would not be in the
position of debating legislation that has such a profound impact on the
national security and on American values and civil liberties in the
crush of exigent circumstances. More often that not, it is true as the
saying goes that haste makes waste.
  Mr. Speaker, the legislation before us is intended to fill a gap in
the Nation's intelligence gathering capabilities identified by Director
of National Intelligence Mike McConnell, by amending the Foreign
Intelligence Surveillance Act, FISA. But in reality it eviscerates the
Fourth Amendment to the Constitution and represents an unwarranted
transfer of power from the courts to the Executive Branch and a Justice
Department led by an Attorney General whose reputation for candor and
integrity is, to put it charitably, subject to considerable doubt.
  Mr. Speaker, FISA has served the Nation well for nearly 30 years,
placing electronic surveillance inside the United States for foreign
intelligence and counter-intelligence purposes on a sound legal footing
and I am far from persuaded that it needs to be jettisoned or
substantially amended. But given the claimed exigent circumstances by
the Administration, let me briefly discuss some of the changes to FISA
I am prepared to support on a temporary basis, not to exceed 120 days.
  First, I am prepared to accept temporarily obviating the need to
obtain a court order for foreign-to-foreign communications that pass
through the United States. But I do insist upon individual warrants,
based on probable cause, when surveillance is directed at people in the
United States. The Attorney General must still be required to submit
procedures for international surveillance to the Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Court for approval, but the FISA Court should not be
allowed to issue a ``basket warrant'' without making individual
determinations about foreign surveillance. There should be an initial
15-day emergency authority so that international surveillance can begin
while the warrants are being considered by the Court. And there must
also be congressional oversight, requiring the Department of Justice
Inspector General to conduct an audit every 60 days of U.S. person
communications intercepted under these warrants, to be submitted to the
Intelligence and Judiciary Committees. Finally, as I have stated, this
authority must be of short duration and must expire by its terms in 120
days.
  In all candor, Mr. Speaker, I must restate my firm conviction that
when it comes to the track record of this President's warrantless
surveillance programs, there is still nothing on the public record
about the nature and effectiveness of those programs, or the
trustworthiness of this Administration, to indicate that they require
any legislative response, other than to reaffirm the exclusivity of
FISA and insist that it be followed. This could have been accomplished
in the 109th Congress by passing H.R. 5371, the ``Lawful Intelligence
and Surveillance of Terrorists in an Emergency by NSA Act,'' LISTEN
Act,'' which I have co-sponsored with the then Ranking Members of the
Judiciary and Intelligence Committees, Mr. Conyers and Ms. Harman.

  The Bush Administration has not complied with its legal obligation
under the National Security Act of 1947 to keep the Intelligence
Committees ``fully and currently informed'' of U.S. intelligence
activities. Congress cannot continue to rely on incomplete information
from the Bush Administration or revelations in the media. It must
conduct a full and complete inquiry into electronic surveillance in the
United States and related domestic activities of the NSA, both those
that occur within FISA and those that occur outside FISA.
  The inquiry must not be limited to the legal questions. It must
include the operational details of each program of intelligence
surveillance within the United States, including: (1) who the NSA is
targeting; (2) how it identifies its targets; (3) the information the
program collects and disseminates; and most important; (4) whether the
program advances national security interests without unduly
compromising the privacy rights of the American people.
  Given the unprecedented amount of information Americans now transmit
electronically and the post-9/11 loosening of regulations governing
information sharing, the risk of intercepting and disseminating the
communications of ordinary Americans is vastly increased, requiring
more precise--not looser--standards, closer oversight, new mechanisms
for minimization, and limits on retention of inadvertently intercepted
communications.
  Mr. Speaker, the legislation before us is not necessary. The bill
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House voted to pass last night is more than sufficient to address the
intelligence gathering deficiency identified by Director McConnell.
That bill, H.R. 3356, provided ample amount of congressional
authorization needed to ensure that our intelligence professionals have
the tools that they need to protect our Nation, while also safeguarding
the rights of law-abiding Americans. That is why I supported H.R. 3356,
but cannot support S. 1927. I encourage my colleagues to join me in
voting against the unwise and ill-considered S. 1927.
  Mr. SMITH of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman
from California (Mr. Daniel E. Lungren), who's a member of the
Judiciary Committee and the Homeland Security Committee.
  Mr. DANIEL E. LUNGREN of California. Mr. Speaker, I thank the
gentleman for yielding.
  Mr. Speaker, after listening to my friend from Texas, with whom I
serve on two committees, I just must say that I'm sure she misspoke
when she said that we passed a bill on the floor yesterday that would
have done all those things. If the gentlelady will recall, it failed on
the floor because it was under suspension, and that recollection is
about as accurate as the description of the bill before us that I've
heard from the other side.
  I am disappointed to hear the rhetoric on this floor that scares the
American people into believing that somehow we're tearing up the
Constitution.
  The fact of the matter is in 1978, when we passed the original
version of FISA, we exempted from its consideration our capture of
foreign conversations involving someone in a foreign country. The
technology that was used at that time is different than the technology
now, and what we are doing with this bill is making the law compatible
with current technology.
  What is that section of the bill that we've heard our colleagues on
the other side get so upset about? It is this section, section 105(a):
Nothing in the definition of electronic surveillance under section
101(f) shall be construed to encompass surveillance directed at a
person reasonably believed to be located outside of the United States.
  And what the Director of National Intelligence has told us is the
interpretation of current law forbids him to do that to a large extent.
Now, we can spend hours on the floor explaining why, but that's the
fact. He was not here trying to scare us. I am amazed that some of my
friends on the other side would suggest that Admiral McConnell, with
his distinguished career of service, 40 years as mentioned by the
chairman of the Intelligence Committee, serving under Presidents
Democrat and Republican, would be involved in scare tactics. He came to
us and told us we need this because America is blinded in a significant
degree by current law.
  If, in the capture of this information, we do come into contact with
communication that involves someone in the United States, an American
citizen, we go through a process called minimization, which means we
get it out of there if it has nothing to do with the evil actor. We get
rid of it, as we've done for 50 years in the criminal justice system,
28 years under FISA.
  But if, in fact, that individual is someone who is involved in
terrorism, a reasonable suspicion that that is the case, then we get a
warrant. Not only do we do that and maintain that in this bill, we beef
up the minimization process, and we beef up the oversight, and we allow
the FISA court to look at it and to approve it and to audit it, and in
addition, we require reports to the committees of the House and the
Senate.
  How that is tearing up the Constitution I do not know unless you
haven't read the Constitution, unless you haven't read the history of
FISA, unless you haven't read the means by which we have extracted
communications around the world.
  All this does is bring the law up to present-day technology. It does
nothing to tear up the Constitution. And please, talk about fear-
mongering, to stand on this floor and say that this allows the Attorney
General or anybody else in the Federal Government to listen in to any
conversation you have is absolutely untrue. No one should believe that.
It hasn't been done in the past. It's not being done now. This law does
nothing but bring us up to present-day technology.
  If you will look at the original FISA law, you will see that it
specifically exempts from the definition of electronic communications
these kinds of communications, but they used to be carried in a
different way, and we captured them in a different way. We just want to
capture them now under the technology that is currently used in the
world. That's all we're doing; nothing more, nothing less.
  Let's not involve ourselves in fear tactics, scare tactics on the
floor and suggest to the American people something which is occurring
which has not, is not, and will not and cannot be done under this bill.
  Mr. REYES. Mr. Speaker, I think the American people are going to
decide for themselves when they read the text of this bill.
  I yield 2 minutes to the gentlelady from California, a valued member
of our committee, Ms. Eshoo.
  Ms. ESHOO. Mr. Speaker, I thank the chairman of the House
Intelligence Committee.
  In listening to my colleague from California, he talked about
technology, and I think I know something about it. I represent the
place, Silicon Valley, which is the home of innovation and technology
for our Nation and the world, but this isn't just a matter of how. This
is a matter of who, of who.
  Now, for the American people that are tuned in, what is this debate
about? We all know that there are sworn enemies of our country. There
are those that would do us harm and do us in, and every President of
the United States deserves the best intelligence. We take an oath to
protect our country and also to protect our Constitution.
  So where's the dispute here? The dispute is that this bill allows the
Attorney General, without any legal framework, when someone from
outside the country calls, our government can monitor you, and we are
saying that this is an abrogation of rights that we have.
  This side, what we have fought for all along is to protect our
country, protect our Constitution and have a legal framework. This is
the administration that had to acknowledge that they were operating
outside the law. This is the Attorney General that has disgraced
himself, his office and the department with how he has conducted
himself. Most frankly, this should not be a matter of trust of
individuals. This should be a matter of legal framework, a matter of
law, and this bill does not accomplish it.
  Mr. SMITH of Texas. Mr. Speaker, may I ask how much time remains on
each side?
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman's time has expired. The
gentleman from Michigan has 9\3/4\ minutes remaining. The gentleman
from Michigan has 15.
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to a valued member of
the committee, Mr. Issa of California.
  (Mr. ISSA asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
  Mr. ISSA. Mr. Speaker, I want to lower the tone and the rhetoric for
just a moment and in 2 minutes give the American people and the body
here the opportunity to reflect on what we're really doing here
tonight.
  Mr. Speaker, I travel throughout the Arab world regularly. People in
that area of the world are more afraid of Islamic terrorism than any
American here tonight. They count on us to be their eyes and ears. Most
of those countries do not have the resources we have.
  So when they hear tonight that we don't want a foreign terrorist who
calls into a cell in the U.S. to be listened to, they're shocked.
They're shocked that we wouldn't at least listen to the foreign side of
the operation or see the e-mail, and if the President doesn't sign this
by tomorrow, there will be plenty of terrorists who will take note of
this because they didn't think, in fact, we weren't able to listen to
foreign callers who are calling in to their terrorist cells.
  Mr. Speaker, oddly enough, September 11 is a story of exactly this,
that we were not listening to Osama bin Laden. We were not monitoring
Osama bin Laden's instructions to his cells as they went back and forth
into the U.S. and even into my home of San Diego.
  Mr. Speaker, what's amazing to me here tonight is that we're arguing
as though we're changing the Constitution arbitrarily. Mr. Speaker,
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we're doing is passing a stopgap 6-month, I repeat, 6-month bill. This
thing sunsets in 6 months. One of those months, everybody here will be
out on vacation or in their districts doing town hall meetings.
  The fact is that only 5 months will remain when we come back from the
August recess to work further on refinements on a lasting bill.
  So, Mr. Speaker, I would close by saying, if people would understand,
that really what we're doing is we're simply buying the ability to
leave town and letting our allies and the American people know that
they can sleep safely tonight. I urge you to take this compromise
bipartisan bill.
  Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 1 minute to continue the
discussion raised by the gentleman from California (Mr. Daniel E.
Lungren) because he doesn't think that we're having constitutional
problems that are legitimate over here.
  Now, he's been on both committees, so he knows that the FISA experts
call reverse targeting the ability of the Attorney General to conduct
surveillance on every American's calls with people abroad, with or
without probable cause or warrant just by characterizing the
surveillance as concerning persons abroad. He can claim that the target
is abroad, but the real target is an American citizen in New York who
is on the line, and this is called reverse targeting.
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from
Michigan (Mr. Rogers).
  Mr. ROGERS of Michigan. Mr. Speaker, simply just to answer this
distinguished chairman and friend and distinguished colleague from
Michigan, reverse targeting is not in this bill. It is not in this
bill.
  When I was a young FBI agent, this whole thing started a lot
differently. We had to target the phone. We didn't target the
individual. We targeted the phone. So we had to develop a probable
cause case on the phone that an individual was using, that phone, that
bit of copper wire, to further a criminal enterprise and have criminal
discussions. Think about how long ago that was and how the world has
changed. And the big thing for us, by the way, was to get a pay phone,
where they would change pay phones because they were trying to outsmart
us. They'd go to one pay phone and go to the other one, and if we
didn't have a warrant on that other pay phone, couldn't listen to them
even though we knew what the heck they were doing on that phone. We had
to go back to the court, develop probable cause on that particular
phone. You can see how technology even then started to get ahead of us
a little bit.
  Then we realized in America we got really smart and we said, hey,
wait a minute, it's not the phone that's the criminal. It's the bad
guy. Let's target the bad guy. So, if he goes to phone A or phone B or
phone C, it shouldn't matter. We know that he's the bad guy using those
instruments to further their criminal enterprise.
  That's what we did, and we all did, and you did that. When I was an
agent, you passed those laws and they were good. They were good laws
and they helped us keep abreast of technology and changes and changing
in criminal activity.
  Think about today, prepaid phones. If I'm a terrorist, I buy a
thousand of them. I don't ever use the same phone again. It means we
have to be that much better.
  And what this bill does, what the bill yesterday did not do, is make
it technology neutral. Everyone got up last night and said this is
about foreign-to-foreign. We don't care about that, but the bill and
the language as it was written did, and it put technology in there. So
now you had some FBI agent trying to figure out how do I catch this
guy, because not that I don't know he's a bad guy and I can prove it to
the judge, but because of the kind of technology he's using.
  It took us right back into the 1970s and 1980s when we had to scratch
our head and we came to Congress and said don't do that to us.
  Yesterday, you're saying we're going to do it to you again, and it's
wrong. And I guess I'm so disappointed. I know you hate the Attorney
General and I know you hate the President of the United States, but
don't you love soldiers? Don't you love people who are risking their
lives to catch terrorists? Of course you do, and I know you do.

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  This bill helps us protect them so they can protect us. Right now
there are billions, and I mean billions of conversations and
communications every single day, and I mean billions. There is nothing
in this bill that circumvents a United States citizen's right to the
fourth amendment protections, nothing, nothing. It protects them.
  What we are trying to say is, let us, let the intelligence community
go overseas.
  May I have an additional 30 seconds?
  This bill is an important step to protect us to bring technology to
the point where we don't make agents and officers worry about foreign-
to-foreign communications between terrorists we ought to be listening
to. The court should not be involved. America believes it. I know my
colleagues believe it too.
  Pass this bill.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair assumed that the gentleman yielded
an additional 30 seconds.
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. No, I did not yield an additional 30 seconds.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair is corrected.
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. The gentleman appreciates the generosity of the Chair.
  Mr. REYES. Mr. Speaker, don't worry, they snooker us all the time.
  Mr. Speaker, it's now my privilege to yield to the distinguished
chairman of the Judiciary Committee 1\1/2\ minutes.
  Mr. CONYERS. Let me assure the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Rogers),
and everyone in the House, that I do not hate the Attorney General, and
I do not hate the President of the United States. I disagree strongly
with what they are doing and doing to the Constitution, but I do not
hate them. I just want the Record to show that.
  I am offended by the gentleman suggesting this on the floor of the
House.
  Secondly, I was advised by my friend from California that reverse
targeting isn't in the bill, so we don't have to worry about it. Well,
of course it isn't in the bill. If they did that, you would be over
here arguing the same thing I am.
  But what is in the bill at section 105(a) is, nothing in the
definition of electronic surveillance under section 101(f) shall be
construed to encompass surveillance directed at a person reasonably
believed to be located outside of the United States.
  There is your reverse targeting that is in this bill. They didn't
name it that way, but I think we can read the English language
sufficiently.
  I thank the gentleman.
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, I am not sure if it is in order, but I
would like to ask unanimous consent, recognizing the generosity of the
Chair to this side, that my colleague from the State of Michigan also
be given an additional 30 seconds.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the
gentleman from Michigan?
  There was no objection.
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to my colleague from
Arizona (Mr. Flake).
  Mr. FLAKE. I rise in perhaps reluctant support of the measure
tonight. I rise reluctantly because I supported a lot of the Democrat
proposal yesterday, save one piece. I didn't believe that FISA should
be inserted where it hasn't been inserted already, but I do believe
FISA should govern foreign surveillance when it comes in contact with
an American.
  I am troubled that this legislation does not have language which
would allow the Inspector General to actually report to Congress.
That's how we learned that there were abuses going on in the national
security letter division or department. But I am convinced by the
testimony that I have heard, the briefings that I have gone to, that we
do need to move forward.
  I see this as an interim measure and hope to come back in 180 days
and put in additional protections. But in the meantime, feel that we do
need to move forward and we need the make sure that we are catching the
intelligence that we need to.
  Mr. REYES. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from
Washington (Mr. Inslee).
  (Mr. INSLEE asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
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Gonzales, it is the United States of America.
  In America, we do not allow Alberto Gonzales to listen to our phone
conversations while we are sitting in our living room talking to our
daughter anywhere in the world without judicial review, and that's what
this bill does.
  In America, we do not allow Alberto Gonzales to intercept our e-mail
conversations to our business partners anywhere in the world without
some kind of judicial review. In America, we have that concept because
we understand people who can make mistakes.
  I base my principle on fundamental tenet that the Americans trust the
United States Constitution more than they trust Alberto Gonzales. What
Benjamin Franklin said still holds true, those who would give up
essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither
liberty and safety. He was right then. He is right now.
  Don't pass this bill. Come back and have something that allows
surveillance with protections from our judicial system.
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from New
York (Mr. Fossella).
  (Mr. FOSSELLA asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
  Mr. FOSSELLA. I remember after
9/11 how there was a lot of finger pointing as to who made mistakes and
who caused it, where was the intelligence community, where were our
defenses?
  Isn't that what this is all about, trying to put in place mechanisms
to ensure and to allow our intelligence community to stop another
attack? Isn't this what it's all about to protect the American people
and not to have so many police officers and firefighters rush into a
burning and collapsing building?
  Just remember one thing. On 9/11, aside from a tragedy that occurred
that day, about 3,000 kids lost a parent, 450 kids on Staten Island
alone. Just think of how many missed birthdays there are, missed
weddings, missed graduations, 3,000 kids lost a parent because of what
happened on that day.
  Shouldn't we be standing united to ensure that not one more kid in
this country loses their parents because some terrorist wants to blow
up a building in this country? Shouldn't we err on the side of giving
our folks the power to stop that?
  Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to Mr. Scott of Virginia,
the chairman of the Crime, Terrorism, an Homeland Security Subcommittee
on Judiciary.
  Mr. SCOTT of Virginia. I thank the gentleman for yielding.
  Mr. Speaker, last night we considered a bill that the Director of
National Intelligence said provided everything we needed. We didn't
pass that bill, and here we are today.
  This bill, unfortunately, does more than what's needed. It really
lets the Director of National Intelligence and the Attorney General to
kind of use their imagination to decide when surveillance is
appropriate without any meaningful review.
  This bill will allow warrantless collection of personal data, e-
mails, Internet usage, and allows the Attorney General and the Director
of National Intelligence to do data mining, Internet usage monitoring,
reading e-mails or otherwise acquiring information on every American,
even domestic communications, as long as they determine that the
surveillance is gathering foreign intelligence, that's not terrorism
information, that's anything involving diplomacy, concerning someone
abroad, not someone who is abroad. It could be a conversation, if the
conversation concerns someone abroad. It's helpful just to read the
language of the bill.
  Section 105(b)(a), notwithstanding any other law, the Director of
National Intelligence and the Attorney General may, for periods of up
to 1 year, authorize the acquisition of foreign intelligence
information concerning persons reasonably believed to be outside the
United States if the Director of National Intelligence and Attorney
General determine, based on information, so on and so forth, that,
among other things, that the information that they are gathering is
that a significant purpose is the acquisition of foreign intelligence,
doesn't even have to be the main purpose, just a significant purpose.
  There is no meaningful oversight. They just have to determine that
and put it in writing. Then they can listen in.
  In terms of the reverse targeting, the language that the gentleman
used makes it clear that if they are talking to somebody outside, they
can listen to someone domestically.
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to a valued member of
the committee, Mr. Thornberry.
  Mr. THORNBERRY. Mr. Speaker, just briefly to the gentleman from
Virginia's point, the very next section on that page says this does not
include electronic surveillance.
  The operative part of this bill is a short paragraph which
essentially brings up the checks and balances that were originally in
the 1978 FISA and brings it up to 2007 technology. That is what's going
on here.
  Now, there are some people who do not agree with the checks and
balances that were in the 1978 FISA. Some people think it went too far
one way, some people think it went too far another way.
  This bill does not touch that. What it does is it just brings up
those same checks and balances with the way we communicate today, and
the way that technology has changed.
  Mr. Speaker, I think it's important to emphasize what's going on
here. Information is the critical element, which allows us to defend
the country, which allows troops to operate in the field, which allows
Homeland Security folks of all sorts to defend us against terrorism.
  We are not collecting, today, the information we were able to collect
a short while ago. Most of us would agree, not all of us, but most of
us would agree it's information we should be collecting from foreign
targets in foreign countries. The heart of the problem is a law that
has not kept up with technology.
  Now, there have been efforts for many months in this Chamber to try
to update that law. Last September, the gentlelady from New Mexico
(Mrs. Wilson) had a bill which passed this House, which was a
comprehensive bill, more than 40 pages, that tried to fix this law.
  Unfortunately, that did not get signed into law and the chairman of
Intelligence Committee says that we are going to get back to that more
comprehensive view. But while we are waiting for that, the danger
persists, and the danger grows.
  Now we have a very small bill, just a few pages, that tries to close
the gap between the intelligence we need to keep us safe and the
intelligence we are getting. It doesn't do everything, it doesn't do
nearly as much as I would like to do, but it does close the gap at a
critical time.
  It's important, even with that limited bill, it's important to get
the details right. That's why, for all of the talk we have heard about
what the Director of National Intelligence has or has not said, the
only thing we have in writing is the bill we considered last night did
not enable him to do his job, but he says this bill will.
  Mr. Speaker, I wish passing this bill would guarantee we will not
suffer another terrorist attack. It won't, but it will provide a
significant step towards getting the information we need and the
information that the troops in the field need. It's worth passing
tonight.
  Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 30 seconds to the gentleman from
Virginia (Mr. Scott).
  Mr. SCOTT of Virginia. Mr. Speaker, the former speaker indicated that
I didn't read the whole section where he said that acquisition does not
constitute electronic surveillance. That's true, it doesn't include
wiretap, but it does include searches, e-mail review, all kinds of data
mining so long as it's not electronic surveillance.
  This is overly broad. It can happen in the United States so long as
it concerns someone we reasonably believe to be outside of the United
States. It doesn't even have to be the primary purpose of the search.
It can be a significant purpose of the search.
  Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the former
ranking member of the Intelligence Committee, Ms. Harman.
  Ms. HARMAN. I thank the gentleman for yielding and commend him for
his steadfast protection of civil liberties in this country.
  Mr. Speaker, in June, I received the CIA Seal Medal, the Agency's
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civilian award. As one who lives and breathes security issues, this was
a tremendous honor which I share with the courageous women and men of
the intelligence community, serving in unaccompanied posts in austere
locations around the world.
  I have visited them and thank them again for their bravery and
selfless patriotism. Why do I mention this? Because the issue before us
is fundamental to our efforts to track terrorists and to ensure that
our freedoms and liberties are protected in the process.

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  Only a handful of us in this House are fully briefed on the Terrorist
Surveillance Program, a program which gives those who implement it
incredible tools to find people who would harm us or to engage in
unprecedented violations of Americans' constitutional rights for
improper, ideological, or political purposes.
  Mr. Speaker, the Senate-passed bill punts on the need for a clear
legal framework, to check and balance unfettered executive power. In my
view, we are drilling down to bedrock principle here, and sadly we in
this House appear poised to repeat the Senate's mistake.
  We can track terrorist communications, and we must, but we must do
this without starting down the slippery slope to potential
unprecedented abuse of innocent Americans' privacy. This is our
challenge, and work starts today on building the bipartisan support
necessary to do a crucial course correction by the time this bill
sunsets.
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentlelady from
New Mexico, who has been a champion on this issue and leading the
effort to get us to where we are tonight, Mrs. Wilson.
  Mrs. WILSON of New Mexico. Mr. Speaker, I think it is important for
people to understand why we are here tonight. In April of this year,
the Director of National Intelligence, Admiral Mike McConnell, came to
the Congress and said, we have a problem, and the only thing that can
fix that problem is legislation. We have an intelligence gap. There are
things that we should be listening to that we are missing. Over the
intervening months, we came to discover that the gap was larger than
any of us suspected.
  FISA, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, is frozen in time in
1978. While it has been updated since then in some respects, the basic
structure of treating wire communications differently than over-the-air
communications is still there. In 1978, the phone was on the wall in
the kitchen, and blackberries grew on bushes. Technology has changed,
and we have not kept pace by changing the law.
  FISA was never intended to acquire warrants for foreigners in foreign
countries just because the point of access was in the United States.
And FISA court judges have told us and expressed frustration that they
are spending so much of their time dealing with foreigners in foreign
countries. We need to update this law.
  The bill before us would continue to require warrants on people in
the United States. Let me say that again. The bill before us would
continue to require warrants on people in the United States. It would
stop requiring warrants on people reasonably believed to be outside of
the United States.
  That is the problem.
  There are procedures in the bill that must be reviewed by the FISA
court for compliance with the law and reasonableness. It has a 180-
sunset, which puts the obligation on us as a Congress to review the
implementation of this law, to learn from that experience, to see if it
works, and to monitor implementation.
  Now, we do not all agree in this House. That is very natural for our
self-governing Republic. But on the floor tonight and yesterday, there
are some Members who have questioned the integrity and the independence
of the Director of National Intelligence. He is a retired admiral of 40
years' service who has come back to take a job, at a considerable pay
cut probably, to serve his country. And while it may not violate the
rules of the House to question his integrity and his independence,
those words do bring discredit to this House.
  The bill we have before us tonight got 60 votes in the United States
Senate, 16 from Democrats. The Director of National Intelligence has
told us that it will close the gap that must be closed to give our
intelligence community the tools they need to keep us safe. I would ask
my colleagues to support it.
  Mr. REYES. Mr. Speaker, I now yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman
from Rhode Island (Mr. Langevin).
  Mr. LANGEVIN. Mr. Speaker, this past week the Director of National
Intelligence came before the Congress and told us that there was an
important gap in our Nation's intelligence capabilities. So we
responded swiftly, by crafting legislation tailored to concerns
outlined by Director McConnell. We did what the Director of National
Intelligence asked us to do: we drafted legislation that protected
America.
  But we also did one thing that the administration did not ask us to
do: we protected the Constitution; we protected civil liberties.
Because we believe that you can both protect the Nation and the
liberties upon which it was founded.
  Regrettably, that is not the legislation that is before you today.
This bill undermines longstanding protections for the civil liberties
of Americans. It sweeps aside constitutional norms that have governed
the relationship between the people and the government since its
founding. It puts all domestic spying power back in the hands of
Alberto Gonzales. Now, that ought to scare everybody. It scares me. It
makes FISA a rubber stamp for the Attorney General, and it fails to
provide for adequate oversight of the activities that it authorizes.
  I urge my colleagues to vote against the Senate bill that is before
us tonight so that we can once again bring up the House bill that
strikes a balance between protecting America from terrorists and
preserving our civil liberties.
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, may I inquire as to how much time is left
for each of the three Members.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Michigan has 1\3/4\
minutes; Mr. Conyers from Michigan has 5\1/4\ minutes; Mr. Reyes has
3\1/4\ minutes.
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to recognize the gentleman
from North Carolina (Mr. Watt), a distinguished member of the
Judiciary, for 1 minute.
  Mr. WATT. Mr. Speaker, in North Carolina at 9:35 on a Saturday night,
I doubt that there are any people who are worried about what this
Congress is doing to their constitutional rights, and probably that is
so for people throughout America. I doubt that many of them understand
what a FISA court is. But what they do understand is they don't want to
entrust their constitutional rights to the Attorney General Alberto
Gonzales. They don't trust him, and rightfully so.
  So when Mr. Issa says that we worry about what the terrorists might
be thinking tomorrow, I worry about what they might be thinking
tonight, because they must be thinking: You know, we might have won the
battle, because we have the United States reacting and giving up its
constitutional rights.
  Vote against this bill.
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. REYES. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to a member of our
committee, the gentlelady from Illinois (Ms. Schakowsky).
  Ms. SCHAKOWSKY. This bill is an offense to the Constitution that we
are sworn to protect. Let me tell you what we are voting on tonight.
  If we pass this bill, we are voting for the warrantless, that means
no court order, warrantless surveillance of our phone calls, a
warrantless collection of personal data, e-mails, and Internet usage,
the evisceration of the power of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance
court, and making it little more than a rubber stamp for Alberto
Gonzales. Are these the principles our Nation was built on?
  Our Founding Fathers knew better.
  John Adams: ``A Constitution of government once changed from freedom
can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever.''
  We have Thomas Jefferson: ``I would rather be exposed to the
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to those attending too small a degree of it.''
  And, finally, Ben Franklin: ``They that can give up essential liberty
to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor
safety.''
  We can have liberty and safety. The House Democrats offered that
plan. We should heed the word of our Founding Fathers and reject this
legislation.
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, we are pleased to yield to the gentleman
from Tennessee, Mr. Steve Cohen, 1 minute.
  Mr. COHEN. Mr. Speaker, I think it has well been addressed here the
dangers that this side of the aisle and possibly some well-meaning
folks on the other side of the aisle have about the encroachment on the
Constitution that this bill will have. What it basically does is take
judges out of the process. When we fear judges, we have got a real
problem in this country, and from a court that routinely approves all
requests made of it, the FISA court.
  On our walls enshrined forever are the words of Judge Lewis Brandeis
in 1928. Judge Brandeis said: ``The greatest danger to liberty lurks in
insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning, but without
understanding.''
  The greatest danger to liberty lurks in insidious encroachment by men
of zeal, well-meaning, without understanding. I am afraid in Attorney
General Gonzales we have somebody without understanding and maybe not
even well-meaning. And the problem is, he should resign, because he is
jeopardizing the security of this country, because the people of this
country and most of the Members of this Congress don't trust him with
additional powers. He should resign.
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, I yield to the distinguished gentleman from
Minnesota, Keith Ellison, 1 minute.
  Mr. ELLISON. Mr. Speaker, the right of the people to be secure in
their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable
searches and seizures shall not be violated, and no warrant shall issue
but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and
particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or
things to be seized.
  Mr. Speaker, I remind us of those words in our Constitution tonight,
because I believe that this Senate bill has forgotten about them. I
remind us of these words because, as I consider this bill before us
today, the administration, this legislation would allow the NSA
warrantless access virtually to all international communications of
Americans with anyone outside the U.S., including Americans, as long as
the government declared that the surveillance was directed at people
which includes foreigners or citizens reasonably believed to be located
outside the U.S., a definition which covers literally billions of
people.
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. REYES. Mr. Speaker, I now yield 1\1/4\ minutes to the gentleman
from Pennsylvania who serves on the Armed Services Committee, Mr.
Sestak.
  Mr. SESTAK. Mr. Speaker, through my 31 years in the military, I came
to understand throughout this world how much we are respected for the
power of our military, for the power of our economy, and admired for
the power of our ideals.
  After I became head of the Navy's antiterrorism unit after 9/11, I
came to truly understand the value of data mining facilitated by
eavesdropping properly done. But I relearned the lesson I had learned
at the White House as Director of Defense Policy, as intelligence
officers came forward to the President, that seldom does one need a
one-armed intelligence officer. In their gray world, it is often on the
one hand, but on the other hand. Therefore, you often press for more
intelligence. When I went into Afghanistan with the CIA and we had
millions of dollars to buy loyalty on that ground, we wanted all the
intelligence. But I know the FISA system, and that is giving to them
the ability to give it.
  What we did is we met with my colleague from the Navy, Admiral
McConnell. We facilitated the ease by which we could do this. The bill
we voted on last night is the right bill. It gives the proper balance.
It gives the ability to the President to come and do his intelligence
seeking, even coming later if he must, to the FISA court.
  My concern is what Benjamin Franklin said: Those who give up liberty
for the sake of security deserve neither liberty nor security.

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  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to my colleague, Mr.
Tiahrt.
  Mr. TIAHRT. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Michigan for
yielding.
  This bill is a good bill and it is needed to fill the gap.
  I have heard a lot of hate for Attorney General Gonzales and the
President tonight, but legislation should not be written based on one
individual or two individuals.
  In 1995 the Republican majority didn't pass legislation because
Attorney General Janet Reno took credit for the fiasco in Waco when
more than 20 children were burned to death. We didn't write legislation
because government agents shot to death a woman holding her child in
Ruby Ridge, Idaho. Instead, we went ahead and did the right thing. And
tonight, Attorney General Gonzales shouldn't have anything to do with
the legislation we are going to pass because the leaks and the lawsuits
that have occurred from liberal Democrats have placed this country in
jeopardy.
  Do you realize we don't listen to the terrorist calls like we used
to, we don't listen to e-mails or follow e-mails like we used to, we
don't follow terrorist finances like we used to because of these leaks
and lawsuits from liberal Democrats. But this legislation tonight will
pass and it will fill the gap.
  If you don't pass this legislation, you will be responsible for any
attacks that could occur on America.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Pastor). The Chair would advise Members
that the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Hoekstra) has 45 seconds
remaining, the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Reyes) has 45 seconds
remaining, and the gentleman from Michigan has 2\1/4\ minutes
remaining. The gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Conyers) has the right to
close.
  Mr. REYES. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 30 seconds to the
gentleman from Oregon (Mr. Wu).
  Mr. WU. Mr. Speaker, we teach American children that we ought to
protect both our safety and our privacy with equal vigor, and tonight
we fail these children and we fail future generations.
  The Senate bill before us empowers the Attorney General to authorize
surveillance. It empowers the Attorney General to develop the
regulations guiding that surveillance. It empowers the Attorney General
to audit the compliance with his own guidelines. This bill makes Albert
Gonzales the sheriff, the judge, and the jury.
  Americans expect accountability, that their private lives remain
private, and that their government is one they need not fear.
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, it is with great pleasure that I yield 1
minute to the majority leader of the House, Steny Hoyer of Maryland.
  Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the chairman for yielding.
  I want to thank the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, one of our
most senior Members and a gentleman who is deeply committed to civil
liberties and the protections being accorded that our Constitution
guarantees to every citizen.
  I also want to thank Mr. Reyes, the chairman of the Intelligence
Committee, an individual who has been involved in law enforcement all
of his life before coming to the Congress of the United States, who
understands the necessity for constraints on those in power.
  We all understand as well the threat that confronts us from
terrorism. And every Member of this body, without exception, wants to
assure the safety and security of our homeland and of our people. Every
Member of this body wants to assure that we have given to those in
charge of protecting this country the tools necessary to accomplish
that objective.
  Our Founding Fathers were convinced that if we worked hard at it and
cooperatively, that we could accomplish both of those objectives.
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this. I participated myself, as I have said the other day when we
passed another bill, to accomplish what I believed was much better as
far as both objectives.
  I believe that every Member in this House wants to protect America.
Each of us will exercise our judgment when this vote comes on whether
or not this bill is supportable given what I think is the failure to
pay attention, as it should have, to the constitutional protections
while focusing on the protections against terrorism and against those
who would harm and undermine the interests of our country. I regret
that.
  I spent time talking to Admiral McConnell. Roy Blunt, my friend, and
I spent time talking to Admiral McConnell. We spent time reviewing the
legislation. I believe that we could reach agreement. I will tell my
friends here that I think if we had been dealing with Admiral
McConnell, that we would have reached agreement. It became evident,
however, that that was not the case. I say that candidly and
disappointedly. It became obvious that we were dealing with the
administration. There are many of us in this House who believe the
administration has focused on the security interests, unfortunately to
the exclusion too often of the constitutional requirements.
  I will be voting against this legislation, not because I don't want
to give the tools to our security apparatus that I think they need,
that I want them to have, that I think the American people expect us to
make sure they have, but because I believe we have not reached the
balance that our Founding Fathers expected.
  Now, there would be some on my side and many on the other side who
will vote for this legislation. From my perspective, however, we have
much work that remains to be done. Mr. Reyes, Mr. Conyers, and Mr.
Hoekstra will be working very hard during the coming days to fashion
permanent legislation.
  This legislation is for 6 months. And my plea to each one of us on
this floor and to the administration is to work together to ensure that
we protect both the American public from terrorists and, as our
Founding Fathers expected our Constitution to do and as conservatives
have always focused attention on, protecting our people from the
excesses and abuse of those to whom we give power in this country.
Because we have done that through the decades and centuries, our
country is unique and respected for that protection of liberty and
freedom.
  So I urge my colleagues, whatever the outcome on this floor tonight,
as we proceed over the next few months, let us work together as
Americans committed to both of those objectives.
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, I submit for the Record a statement by the
Director of National Intelligence, Mr. Mike McConnell, of August 3.
  I look forward to working with my colleagues on crafting permanent
legislation.

 Statement by the Director of National Intelligence, Mr. Mike McConnell

       I have reviewed the proposal that the House of
     Representatives is expected to vote on this afternoon to
     modify the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. The House
     proposal is unacceptable, and I strongly oppose it.
       The House proposal would not allow me to carry out my
     responsibility to provide warning and to protect the Nation,
     especially in our heightened threat environment.
       I urge Members of Congress to support the legislation I
     provided last evening to modify FISA and to equip our
     Intelligence Community with the tools we need to protect our
     Nation.

  Mr. Speaker, I yield the balance of my time to the distinguished
minority leader, Mr. Boehner.
  Mr. BOEHNER. Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague for yielding.
  Mr. Speaker and my colleagues, we live in a dangerous world. If you
have read the National Intelligence Report or if you have read reports
of it, you understand the growth of al Qaeda not only in the Middle
East but around the world. You have read about other organizations in
other parts of the world, radical jihadist movements aimed at killing
Americans and our allies both here and abroad.
  Our intelligence capabilities are the first line in our defense of
providing safety and security to the American people and information to
our troops around the world who are out there on the front lines being
the beacons of hope and opportunity for those who live in very
oppressed areas of the world.
  Today all of us know that we have a gap in our intelligence-gathering
operations. I believe that the bill we defeated last night was the
right move on behalf of the House because it would not have provided
our intelligence agencies the tools they needed to protect the American
people and to provide the information to help protect our troops and to
give them the information they need to win the war against terrorists.
  I believe that the bill, crafted by our colleagues in the Senate in a
bipartisan way, that we are dealing with here tonight does, in fact,
give our intelligence agencies the tools they need to help keep
Americans safe, to help provide the tools for our men and women around
the world as they are out there doing their job to protect the American
people and to win the war against terrorism.
  We all know there is an increased threat of terrorism here in our
country. We all know that we are expected to be more vigilant. Why
should we tie the hands of our intelligence-gathering capability at a
time when we are facing an increasing threat?
  I believe that the bill we have here before us does give our agencies
the tools they need. This bill is only for 6 months. Six months. We
have a lot of work to do to modernize the underlying bill in order to
put in place a system that allows us to collect the information we need
while protecting the rights of the American people.
  We are dealing with the right bill tonight. It deserves the support
of all of our Members, and I would urge my colleagues to support it.
  Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased now to yield 1 minute to a
distinguished member of our Judiciary Committee, the gentlewoman from
Florida (Ms. Wasserman Schultz).
  Ms. WASSERMAN SCHULTZ. Mr. Speaker, 2\1/2\ years ago, this body,
during another congressional recess, debated and passed a bill that
dealt with the right to privacy: the Terri Schiavo legislation. The
Republican Congress shredded the right to privacy in the Constitution
then, and many Members regretted their vote because they got home and
faced their constituents that were aghast at what we had done.
  This bill is far worse because it treads on all Americans' civil
liberties and their right to privacy. It allows warrantless wiretaps
with no prior court review. It allows the government to spy on
Americans without suspicion of their wrongdoing. It allows the
government to force telecommunication companies to conduct the
eavesdropping.
  We need to adopt a wiretap program that protects our constitutional
rights. Do we trust this administration with respecting the privacy of
Americans and not casting the widest net possible? When do we say
``this far and no farther''?
  Voting for this bill lets the terrorists win. It lets them force us
to choke off our citizens' rights. Americans want us, as they have
repeatedly shown, to uphold the finest example of democracy and civil
liberties the world has ever known.
  Don't let the terrorists win. Vote against this bill. Adopt a
surveillance program that protects our citizens and our rights.
  Mr. REYES. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
  Mr. Speaker, the preferable legislation we debated yesterday. Having
done that, we are going to do vigorous oversight over this legislation
we have debated tonight, and we are going to do our best to bring
permanent legislation at the end of September.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
  Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
  This measure fails because it allows targeting under section 105(a).
This measure fails because it contains no guidelines that are missing
in 105(b).
  Mr. KUCINICH., Mr. Speaker, I wish to make clear my opposition to
H.R. 3356, the Improving Foreign Intelligence Surveillance to Defend
the Nation and the Constitution Act of 2007, and S. 1927, both of which
I proudly voted against.
  This legislation must be opposed because the Bush administration
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any additional surveillance powers. This administration has actively
violated the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act by engaging in
surveillance of Americans without warrants. And the administration
violated our Constitution by hiding this fact from Congress and the
American public.
  The only legislation that should come to the floor in this Congress
is legislation that would limit the powers of this rogue presidency.
Democrats must challenge the President and take back the power granted
to Congress by the Constitution.
  Instead this Congress has given into the fear tactics of the
administration. Those who use fear to gain power are themselves
subverting democracy. This Congress must not accept this false choice
and defend Americans and their Constitution from the politics of fear.
  The Democrats cannot shrink from this fight. We must demand that the
President cease his attacks on our civil liberties.
  For these reasons Mr. Speaker I opposed this legislation and I will
oppose all future attempts by this body to pass gratuitous, fear
provoking legislation that sanctions oppression against the American
people.
  Ms. HIRONO. Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong opposition to S. 1927. This
bill represents a shocking and grave invasion of long-held
constitutional rights of American citizens that--until the abuses of
this administration--have been regarded as sacrosanct and inviolable.
This bill codifies violating the Fourth amendment ``right of the people
to be secure in their person, homes, papers, and effects against
unreasonable searches and seizures . . .''
  S. 1927 will permit the National Security Agency (NSA) to acquire and
analyze all international communications of Americans, without any
meaningful judicial oversight. It will allow the NSA to gain
warrantless and unchecked access to virtually all international
communications of Americans with anyone outside the United States. All
the government has to do is to declare that the surveillance was
directed at people--which includes foreigners and citizens alike--it
``reasonably believed'' to be located outside the United States. It
doesn't have to even target terrorists; all that the government needs
to do is to determine that the purpose of the acquisition is to obtain
``foreign intelligence information'' outside the United States. These
overly broad definitions covers millions of people--and potentially
millions of U.S. citizens--and the purpose need not involve the
surveillance of suspected terrorists. We are giving the government, and
specifically this administration, entirely too much power.
  One of the two people given extraordinary power to authorize these
warrantless intrusions into our private communications is the Attorney
General of the United States.
  Can we be assured that this Attorney General--or any Attorney General
for that matter--will have the integrity and sound judgment to
faithfully carry out his or her responsibilities in a way which will
inflict the least possible harm to the constitutional rights of
American citizens?
  Can we be assured that each Attorney General who is granted this
power will have only the national security in mind, and not any
political motivation in exercising his or her extraordinary power?
  Mr. Speaker, we Americans don't like governments which spy on their
people. This bill allows just that in our own country. I urge my
colleagues to vote no on this bill.
  Mrs. CHRISTENSEN. Mr. Speaker, I stand in strong opposition to the S.
1927, the Senate FISA bill and urge all of my Democratic colleagues,
who are the last remaining protectors and defenders of our Constitution
and democracy, to oppose it as well.
  Benjamin Franklin is quoted as having said something to the effect
of, ``He who would sacrifice liberty for security deserves neither.''
  Mr. Speaker, I would say that this bill before us purports to offer
security, but what it does is it gives someone who has proven
untrustworthy the ability to wiretap conversations of any one of us he
deems a threat, and thus trashes the 4th amendment--something the
President, Alberto Gonzales and all of us took an oath to uphold as
part of our Constitution.
  I want to take this opportunity, Mr. Speaker, to remind everyone that
President Bush and the Attorney General have every authority needed to
do surveillance of any phone conversation or wire communication between
persons who they have substantive reason to suspect is involved in
activities against our government and the American people. And they
don't even have to get the FISA court order before in cases where time
lost would put us at increased risk; they can go ahead and go to the
court up to 72 hours later.
  H.R. 3356, the bill we passed last night, was drafted with the input
and blessing of Admiral Mike McConnell before he was advised to oppose
it by his Commander in Chief. It provides the authority he said would
be what is needed, without trampling the rights that you, I and every
American hold dear.
  I urge my colleagues to vote this measure down and bring back H.R.
3356 the bill the Director of National Intelligence says does what he,
his office and our country needs. And should our Republican colleagues
and the President prevail tonight, we ought to begin tonight to reverse
the overly broad authority given.
  Mr. UDALL of New Mexico. Mr. Speaker, I rise today with great remorse
that we are considering the legislation before us. I believe that the
basic foundation of our Nation is inextricably linked between our
national security and our civil liberties. Indeed, it was the very
battle to secure our civil liberties that brought our Nation into
being. Unfortunately, the current Attorney General and the White House
continue to obfuscate the line between these links by casting
inflammatory rhetoric that has little basis in truth.
  And now we have bad legislation and few options. The Senate has sent
this bill to us and has gone home, leaving the House in the position of
considerable difficulty. The effort of the House leadership in the last
six months, and in particular in the past two weeks, has been one of
compromise, of negotiation, and of listening, and the legislation upon
which this body voted on yesterday demonstrated that. That is why I
voted in favor of its passage. The legislation today is little more
than an ill-advised attempt by the Senate at a quick fix that will do
nothing to protect our civil liberties and everything to give the
continued opportunity of threatening American citizens' freedoms.
  It is absolutely essential that the Congress deliberate extensively
before reaching a final legislative conclusion on a matter of this
magnitude. As with my vote on the PATRIOT Act, I do not believe that
changes to the FISA Court--and allowing the surveillance activity of
the Attorney General to remain untethered and unchecked--should be
supported simply due to the rhetoric of a few. I have supported the
investigation of the Attorney General because I believe he has failed
in his duties to protect the American people from a deterioration of
our basic civil liberties. For all of these reasons, I will vote
against today's legislation.
  Mr. UDALL of Colorado. Mr. Speaker, I regret that I cannot vote for
this bill.
  The bill is intended to provide a temporary response to the request
of Admiral McConnell, Director of National Intelligence, for
legislation to address what he says is a critical collection gap in our
electronic surveillance capabilities.
  I think Congress should take such action. That is why on August 3rd I
voted for the House version of the legislation. That bill was supported
by a majority of the House. However, it was considered under a
procedure requiring a two-thirds vote, so our Republican colleagues,
taking their lead from President Bush, were able to block it--and so
now we are considering this different version, which has already passed
the Senate.
  Like the version I voted for earlier, this bill would make clear that
no warrant or court order is required for our intelligence agencies to
monitor communications between people located outside the United
States, even if those communications pass through the United States or
the surveillance device is located within the United States. The point
of this clarification is to resolve doubts about the status of
communications between foreign persons located overseas that pass
through routing stations here in the United States.
  I have no reservation in supporting this clarification to help
resolve questions related to changes in communications technology since
enactment of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA. And I
think it is useful that the bill reiterates that individual warrants,
based on probable cause, are required when surveillance is directed at
individuals in the United States.
  However, this Senate bill would go much further than the House
version. It would allow interception, without warrants, of
communications between someone in the United States and a foreign party
suspected of involvement in ``foreign intelligence'' matters, which is
broader and less precise than the requirement that the party be
suspected in connections to a terrorist group such as al-Qaida.
  I am not convinced such a sweeping grant of authority is justified,
and cannot support it.
  The bill does require a warrant from the special FISA court for
surveillance of a U.S. resident who is the chief target of the
surveillance. And the bill requires involvement of the Director of
National Intelligence, as well as the Attorney General, in approving
surveillance, rather than just the Attorney General alone as the
Administration wanted. In that regard, it is not as troublesome as it
might have been. However, again, I am not convinced that its safeguards
of Americans' privacy and civil liberties are adequate.
  I greatly regret that our Republican colleagues made it impossible
for the House to pass a better version of this legislation. I recognize
that the bill before us is not a permanent measure, but will expire in
six months. Nonetheless, while I do think Congress should

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act on this subject, I cannot support this bill as it stands.
  Mrs. WILSON of New Mexico. Mr. Speaker, today we will pass the Senate
version of a bill to modernize the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance
Act (FISA). Because I have been actively involved in the crafting of
this legislation and the review of the FISA law over the last two
years, I feel it is important to be very clear about our legislative
intent on some key points.
  The legislation is intended to make clear that our intelligence
agencies do not need a warrant from the Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Court to target people for electronic surveillance who are
reasonably believed to be located outside of the United States.
  While the law prior to these amendments does not require warrants on
communications between foreigners in foreign countries, because
technology has changed, it is only in rare circumstances that our
agencies can tell in advance that there is no chance that a target will
not call a number in America. Because they can't tell in advance that
the targeted communication is not to an American and there is no ``safe
harbor'' in the current law, they are forced to get warrants to avoid
potentially committing a crime. As a result, increasingly, our
intelligence agencies have been forced to get warrants on foreign
targets in foreign countries. The foreign intelligence surveillance
court is increasingly spending time approving warrants on people who
have no privacy rights under our Constitution in the first place.
  Because of recent court decisions relying on the statute, this
problem has become worse. This bill was intended to not require
warrants if the target is reasonably believed to be located outside the
United States even if the point of the intercept or the technology used
to intercept the communication is inside the United States. What
matters is the location of the person who is communicating, not the
location of the communications device or the interception technology.
  The bill is also intended to retain very important protections of
American civil liberties. If the target of a collection is a person in
the United States, the government must get a warrant to intercept the
content of that communication, as required by current law.
  There was some concern during work on the bill about ``reverse
targeting''. In its simplest form, this could be ``targeting'' a
foreign number frequently called by an American so that the government
could collect the content of the American's conversation. It is our
intention that this ``reverse targeting'' would be illegal under the
statute. If the intent is to collect the content of communications of a
U.S. person who has an expectation of privacy, a warrant is required,
even if the number targeted for that collection is a foreign number.
  With this new legislation, the role of the FISA Court is limited to
reviewing the new procedures for collection, not approving individual
warrants or micromanaging collection. The intention is to have the
Court review the process, the protections of privacy and the audits in
place to determine that they are satisfactory and in compliance with
the law. The Court may also issue orders to assist the Government in
obtaining compliance with lawful directives to provide assistance under
the bill, and review challenges to the legality of such directives.
  The legislation provides for compulsion certifications for
telecommunications carriers. These compulsion certifications are
intended to provide the same degree of legal protection as a FISA court
order.
  This is a narrowly crafted change to FISA that fixes an immediate
problem. The bill contains a sunset and we must review how the law is
being implemented during the early months to determine what, if any,
other provisions need to be changed.
  There are issues we must address when we reauthorize this
legislation, including how the Congress should provide immunity,
including retroactive immunity, for telecommunications carriers that
are parties to lawsuits based on allegations that they assisted the
government.
  Mr. KAGEN. Mr. Speaker, our Nation has faced many challenges in our
history, and none more serious or deadly than our battle against
violent extremists. Make no mistake, we must do whatever it takes to
defend America and keep hostilities from our shores. We must be tough
and we must be smart. We have the tough part right, and now more than
ever we must be smart.
  The bill now before the House asks the American people to give up our
Fourth amendment rights--without firing a single shot--even when the
facts reveal we already have laws to allow intelligence agencies to
protect all of us.
  The Senate-sponsored bills trades our Fourth amendment rights for a
false promise of security. It pretends to offer our people the
reassurance that the current Attorney General--a man few believe to be
honorable or honest--will exercise good judgment in defending all of
us.
  Our Nation has lost faith in this administration's competence, and
has lost faith in the ability of President Bush to understand and obey
the rule of law. Having lost our faith in this President, we must not
lose our constitutional rights as well. We must defend our Nation, and
we can continue to do so under the rule of law.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The time of the gentleman from Michigan has
expired.
  All time for debate has expired.
  Pursuant to the order of the House of today, the Senate bill is
considered read and the previous question is ordered.
  The question is on the third reading of the Senate bill.
  The Senate bill was ordered to be read a third time, and was read the
third time.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the passage of the Senate
bill.
  The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the ayes appeared to have it.
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
  The yeas and nays were ordered.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 227,
nays 183, not voting 23, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 836]

                               YEAS--227

     Aderholt
     Akin
     Alexander
     Altmire
     Bachmann
     Bachus
     Baker
     Barrett (SC)
     Barrow
     Bartlett (MD)
     Barton (TX)
     Bean
     Biggert
     Bilbray
     Bilirakis
     Bishop (UT)
     Blackburn
     Blunt
     Boehner
     Bonner
     Bono
     Boozman
     Boren
     Boswell
     Boustany
     Boyd (FL)
     Brady (TX)
     Broun (GA)
     Brown (SC)
     Brown-Waite, Ginny
     Buchanan
     Burgess
     Burton (IN)
     Buyer
     Calvert
     Camp (MI)
     Campbell (CA)
     Cannon
     Cantor
     Capito
     Carney
     Carter
     Castle
     Chabot
     Chandler
     Cole (OK)
     Conaway
     Cooper
     Costa
     Cramer
     Cubin
     Cuellar
     Culberson
     Davis (AL)
     Davis (KY)
     Davis, David
     Davis, Lincoln
     Davis, Tom
     Deal (GA)
     Dent
     Diaz-Balart, L.
     Diaz-Balart, M.
     Donnelly
     Doolittle
     Drake
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Edwards
     Ehlers
     Ellsworth
     Emerson
     English (PA)
     Etheridge
     Everett
     Fallin
     Feeney
     Ferguson
     Flake
     Forbes
     Fortenberry
     Fossella
     Foxx
     Franks (AZ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Gallegly
     Garrett (NJ)
     Gerlach
     Gilchrest
     Gillmor
     Gingrey
     Gohmert
     Goodlatte
     Gordon
     Granger
     Graves
     Hall (TX)
     Hastings (WA)
     Heller
     Hensarling
     Herger
     Herseth Sandlin
     Higgins
     Hill
     Hobson
     Hoekstra
     Hulshof
     Inglis (SC)
     Issa
     Jordan
     Keller
     King (IA)
     King (NY)
     Kingston
     Kirk
     Kline (MN)
     Knollenberg
     Kuhl (NY)
     Lamborn
     Lampson
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Linder
     Lipinski
     LoBiondo
     Lucas
     Lungren, Daniel E.
     Mack
     Manzullo
     Marchant
     Marshall
     Matheson
     McCarthy (CA)
     McCaul (TX)
     McCotter
     McCrery
     McHenry
     McHugh
     McIntyre
     McKeon
     McMorris Rodgers
     Melancon
     Mica
     Miller (FL)
     Miller (MI)
     Miller, Gary
     Mitchell
     Moran (KS)
     Murphy, Tim
     Musgrave
     Myrick
     Neugebauer
     Nunes
     Pearce
     Pence
     Peterson (MN)
     Peterson (PA)
     Petri
     Pickering
     Pitts
     Platts
     Poe
     Pomeroy
     Porter
     Price (GA)
     Pryce (OH)
     Putnam
     Radanovich
     Ramstad
     Regula
     Rehberg
     Reichert
     Renzi
     Reynolds
     Rodriguez
     Rogers (AL)
     Rogers (KY)
     Rogers (MI)
     Rohrabacher
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Roskam
     Ross
     Royce
     Ryan (WI)
     Salazar
     Sali
     Schmidt
     Sensenbrenner
     Sessions
     Shadegg
     Shays
     Shimkus
     Shuler
     Shuster
     Simpson
     Smith (NE)
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Snyder
     Souder
     Space
     Stearns
     Sullivan
     Tanner
     Taylor
     Terry
     Thornberry
     Tiahrt
     Tiberi
     Turner
     Upton
     Walberg
     Walden (OR)
     Walsh (NY)
     Walz (MN)
     Wamp
     Weldon (FL)
     Weller
     Westmoreland
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Wilson (NM)
     Wilson (OH)
     Wilson (SC)
     Wolf
     Young (FL)

                               NAYS--183

     Abercrombie
     Ackerman
     Allen
     Andrews
     Arcuri
     Baca
     Baird
     Baldwin
     Berkley
     Berman
     Berry
     Bishop (GA)
     Bishop (NY)
     Blumenauer
     Boucher
     Boyda (KS)
     Brady (PA)
     Braley (IA)
     Brown, Corrine
     Butterfield
     Capps
     Capuano
     Cardoza
     Carnahan
     Carson
     Castor
     Cleaver
     Clyburn
     Cohen
     Conyers
     Costello
     Courtney
     Crowley
     Cummings
     Davis (CA)
     Davis (IL)
     DeFazio
     DeGette
     DeLauro
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Doggett
     Doyle
     Ellison
     Emanuel
     Engel
     Eshoo
     Farr
     Fattah
     Filner
     Frank (MA)
     Giffords
     Gillibrand
     Gonzalez
     Green, Al
     Green, Gene
     Grijalva
     Gutierrez
     Hall (NY)
     Hare
     Harman
     Hastings (FL)
     Hinchey
     Hirono
     Hodes
     Holden
     Holt
     Honda
     Hooley

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     Hoyer
     Inslee
     Israel
     Jackson (IL)
     Jackson-Lee (TX)
     Jefferson
     Johnson (GA)
     Johnson (IL)
     Johnson, E. B.
     Jones (NC)
     Jones (OH)
     Kagen
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Kennedy
     Kildee
     Kind
     Kucinich
     Langevin
     Larsen (WA)
     Larson (CT)
     Lee
     Levin
     Lewis (GA)
     Loebsack
     Lofgren, Zoe
     Lowey
     Lynch
     Mahoney (FL)
     Maloney (NY)
     Markey
     Matsui
     McCarthy (NY)
     McCollum (MN)
     McDermott
     McGovern
     McNerney
     McNulty
     Meek (FL)
     Meeks (NY)
     Michaud
     Miller (NC)
     Miller, George
     Mollohan
     Moore (KS)
     Moore (WI)
     Moran (VA)
     Murphy (CT)
     Murphy, Patrick
     Murtha
     Nadler
     Napolitano
     Neal (MA)
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Pallone
     Pascrell
     Pastor
     Payne
     Pelosi
     Perlmutter
     Price (NC)
     Rahall
     Rangel
     Reyes
     Rothman
     Roybal-Allard
     Ruppersberger
     Rush
     Ryan (OH)
     Sanchez, Linda T.
     Sanchez, Loretta
     Sarbanes
     Schakowsky
     Schiff
     Schwartz
     Scott (GA)
     Scott (VA)
     Serrano
     Sestak
     Shea-Porter
     Sherman
     Sires
     Slaughter
     Smith (WA)
     Solis
     Spratt
     Stark
     Stupak
     Sutton
     Tauscher
     Thompson (CA)
     Thompson (MS)
     Tierney
     Towns
     Udall (CO)
     Udall (NM)
     Van Hollen
     Velazquez
     Visclosky
     Wasserman Schultz
     Waters
     Watson
     Watt
     Waxman
     Weiner
     Welch (VT)
     Wexler
     Woolsey
     Wu
     Wynn
     Yarmuth

                             NOT VOTING--23

     Becerra
     Clarke
     Clay
     Coble
     Crenshaw
     Davis, Jo Ann
     Delahunt
     Goode
     Hastert
     Hayes
     Hinojosa
     Hunter
     Jindal
     Johnson, Sam
     Kilpatrick
     Klein (FL)
     LaHood
     Lantos
     Paul
     Saxton
     Skelton
     Tancredo
     Young (AK)


                Announcement by the Speaker Pro Tempore

  The SPEAKER pro tempore (during the vote). There are 2 minutes
remaining in this vote.

                              {time}  2220

  Ms. Giffords, Mr. Al Green of Texas and Ms. Solis changed their vote
from ``yea'' to ``nay.''
  So the Senate bill was passed.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
  A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.

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