Congressional Record: June 29, 2006 (House)
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PROVIDING FOR CONSIDERATION OF H. RES. 895, SUPPORTING INTELLIGENCE AND
  LAW ENFORCEMENT PROGRAMS TO TRACK TERRORISTS AND TERRORIST FINANCES

  Mr. SESSIONS. Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I
call up House Resolution 896 and ask for its immediate consideration.
  The Clerk read the resolution, as follows:

                              H. Res. 896

       Resolved,  That upon the adoption of this resolution it
     shall be in order without intervention of any point of order
     to consider in

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     the House the resolution (H. Res. 895) supporting
     intelligence and law enforcement programs to track terrorists
     and terrorist finances conducted consistent with Federal law
     and with appropriate Congressional consultation and
     specifically condemning the disclosure and publication of
     classified information that impairs the international fight
     against terrorism and needlessly exposes Americans to the
     threat of further terror attacks by revealing a crucial
     method by which terrorists are traced through their finances.
     The resolution shall be considered as read. The previous
     question shall be considered as ordered on the resolution and
     preamble to final adoption without intervening motion or
     demand for division of the question except: (1) one hour of
     debate equally divided and controlled by the chairman and
     ranking minority member of the Committee on Financial
     Services; and (2) one motion to recommit which may not
     instructions.

  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Simpson). The gentleman from Texas (Mr.
Sessions) is recognized for 1 hour.
  Mr. SESSIONS. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
  Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of debate only, I yield the customary 30
minutes to the gentlewoman from New York, Congresswoman Louise
Slaughter, pending which I yield myself such time as I may consume.
During consideration of this resolution, all time is yielded for the
purpose of debate only.
  This rule provides for 1 hour of debate in the House equally divided
and controlled by the chairman and ranking minority member of the
Committee on Financial Services. It waives all points of order against
consideration of the resolution and, as always, provides the minority
with one motion to recommit, which may not contain instructions.
  Mr. Speaker, I rise today in strong support of this rule and its
underlying simple House resolution that allows the House of
Representatives to take a very clear position on our collective
commitment to identifying and tracking terrorist finances and our
condemnation of the disclosure of any information that puts the lives
of American citizens at risk.
  Today, throughout the course of the debate, we will hear a great
number of accusations hurled from those Members opposed to this
resolution. It is their right to dissent. That is the basis of our
democracy. However, it needs to be made clear at the outset what this
resolution does and what it does not do. What this resolution does is
simple:
  It states that the U.S. House of Representatives supports efforts to
identify, track and pursue suspected foreign terrorists and their
financial supporters by tracking terrorist money flows and uncovering
terrorist networks and that the House finds that the Terrorist
Financing Tracking Program has been conducted in accordance with all
applicable laws, regulations and executive orders, and that the
appropriate safeguards and reviews have been instituted to protect
civil liberties and that Congress was duly informed of this fact.
  It also says that the House condemns the unauthorized disclosure of
classified information and expresses concern that disclosure of this
information may endanger the lives of American citizens and our
efforts, and that the House expects the cooperation of all news media
in protecting the lives of Americans and the capacity of the government
to identify, disrupt and capture terrorists by not disclosing
classified intelligence programs such as the Terrorist Finance Tracking
Program.
  This resolution does not single out or censure any specific media
outlet for its disclosure of classified information that has put
American lives at risk and made our allies less likely to share
classified data in the future. Nor does it chill first amendment rights
or prevent the news media from performing their constitutionally
protected activities. We will hear these kinds of accusations today
time and time again from the other side, Mr. Speaker, and it is
important to make clear from the outset that they are simply not true.
  The basis for the House taking this position is just as clear. We
know that after our country was attacked on September 11, President
Bush launched a full-on campaign against terrorist financing and
authorized the Treasury Department to track the financial supporters of
terrorist groups like al Qaeda, Hamas and Hezbollah to prevent any
further attacks on American citizens either here or abroad.
  We know that by following these monetary transfers, the United States
has been able to locate and identify terrorists and their financers,
chart shadowy terrorist networks, and keep funds out of the hands of
these criminals. We also know that data provided by this program helped
to identify a Brooklyn man who was convicted of laundering $200,000
through a Pakistani bank on behalf of al Qaeda. This program also
facilitated the capture of the mastermind of the Bali resort bombing of
2002.
  This terror finance-tracking program, better known as the SWIFT
program, has been invaluable in protecting American lives and choking
off the sources of terror funding. It is exactly the kind of limited,
legal and effective program that we need to hunt down and starve
terrorists of the funding that they use to attack American interests
and citizens.
  As with any national security program, the administration must be
protective of the sources and methods it uses to execute its mission.
Disclosure of this program has degraded our national security and
injured our efforts to prevent terrorist activity by allowing our
enemies to understand what steps we were taking to stop them. And in a
situation where it is vital to always remain one step ahead of your
enemy, the consequences of showing them our techniques has potentially
devastating and life-threatening consequences.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge all of my colleagues to speak with one voice
today in recognizing the importance of identifying, tracking and ending
the financing of terror and condemning any actions that would allow the
unauthorized disclosure of information that helps our government to
achieve this end. I urge the adoption of this rule and the underlying
resolution.
  Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may
consume.
  (Ms. SLAUGHTER asked and was given permission to revise and extend
her remarks.)
  Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, for all those who will in future years
look back on the vote we take today as a window into the soul of this
Congress, for all those who will see the approval or defeat of this
bill as a testament to how committed this body was to the ideals from
which our Nation draws its strength, for them, let me be very clear. On
this day, the Republican majority shamelessly played politics with our
most cherished principles.
  From the very beginning, this resolution and this so-called debate
has been about one thing and one thing only: election politics. Six
months before our midterm elections, Republicans are falling back on
the one play that has worked for them time and time again. They are
sowing fear in the hearts of the American people and labeling any
individual or organization that doesn't take its marching orders from
the White House as a threat to our Nation.
  Think of what we have heard from leading Republicans over the past
few days. They have called the disclosure of the SWIFT anti-terrorist
program a ``disgrace.'' They have accused the newspaper that first
wrote about it, the New York Times, of forcing its, quote, arrogant,
elitist, left-wing agenda on the rest of the country.
  Mr. Speaker, if all this is true, then I have no choice but to
conclude that our President, President Bush himself, is a disgraceful,
arrogant, left-wing elitist, because it was Mr. Bush who leaked this
story. Mr. Bush, as well as numerous top-ranking members of his
administration, have proudly discussed their efforts to eliminate the
finances of terrorists for 5 years. Not two weeks after September 11,
2001, President Bush told the world the United States had ``launched a
strike on the financial foundation of the global terror network.'' Such
claims have been made time and time again, not just by the President
but by every top Republican official in power.
  What is more, no fewer than 20 current and former administration
officials spoke to New York Times reporters about the SWIFT program.
Where do you think the Times heard it? The article that started this
all could not have been written without their active help. What the New
York Times did, as well as the Wall Street Journal, the Los Angeles
Times, The Washington Post, and newspapers throughout the country
through news services, was to

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publish a story which had, in effect, already been published a thousand
times over by the White House itself and had even been on the Internet.
  The end result is a Republican administration intentionally leaking a
story, as they did to Judith Miller of the New York Times who was then
their heroine, both publicly and privately, and then punishing the
newspaper for reporting on its leaks. In such a context, the notion
that one of our newspapers violated our national security last week is
ludicrous on its face.
  Think of this degree of Republican hypocrisy and then consider this:
the bill before us claims to stand against leaks. But it comes 6 years
into an administration that has always been willing to leak even the
most sensitive information if it thought it would benefit from it
politically. It is the height of irony to think that when the Bush
administration sought to silence critics of its pre-Iraq war
intelligence claims, it chose to leak the classified identity of a CIA
agent, as well as previously classified components of a national
security estimate to, of all places, the New York Times. But it did so,
and it did so willingly.
  Where were the resolutions of protest from the majority during that
scandal? Did we have any expression of outrage over the leaking of a
covert agent who, I am told, not only jeopardized her contacts with the
CIA but the entire intelligence network itself because people would not
trust us anymore? Where were the resolutions of protest about that?
Nowhere.
  Where was the outrage when a national security asset, as well as all
of her contacts in the intelligence community, were put into danger?
There was none, because Republicans deemed that was a permissible leak,
and it was profitable.
  The Republican outrage we see today stinks to high heaven because the
leak of Valerie Plame's identity last year came from high-up, the
highest ranks of its own White House. And when all the contradictions
inherent in this bill are laid bare, we can see what it is actually all
about.
  Republicans need to change the subject of the real debate everyday
people are having in the country. That debate is about the wisdom of
this 3-year, $400 billion war in Iraq that is still claiming American
lives even today. It is about the numerous scandals of its own creation
that the majority is scrambling to explain away. It is about the fact
that Republicans have been entirely unwilling to exercise any form of
meaningful oversight over the programs implemented by Congress and the
White House with disastrous results to our Nation. It is about the very
direction that America will take in the years ahead.
  Democrats are eager to debate all of these issues. But Republicans,
as we see today, are interested only in inventing enemies to point
fingers at and turn the public against. And to do so, Mr. Speaker, they
are willing to jeopardize even our most basic and fundamental
principles. They are willing with this bill and with what they have and
will say on the floor today to make it the province of Congress to
dictate to our cherished independent media what it can and cannot
report about and what it can and cannot say.
  But blaming the messenger is nothing new in this country, Mr.
Speaker. The first time a newspaper was punished by an elected official
was in 1735 when a New York publisher wrote unflattering things about
the Governor of the New York territory and was put in jail. Only a few
decades later, the Alien and Sedition Acts were passed by Congress to
silence those who opposed American involvement in a war with France.
  But to today threaten retribution and legal action against virtually
every news organization in this country simply to gain a few points in
the polls? It is a debasement of this Congress and a desecration of our
Nation's ideals.
  Mr. Speaker, my friends on the other side of the aisle and in the
White House have a right to be worried about what lies ahead for them,
but what they do not have the right to do is to politicize our national
security. They do not have the right to hypocritically and arbitrarily
decide when the Nation has been endangered by a leak and when a leak is
entirely acceptable. And they most certainly do not have the right to
reshape this Congress into a body concerned with, in truth, little more
than political retribution against an equally arbitrary ``enemies
list.''
  The American people expect this majority and this administration to
guard information, not punish newspapers from writing about it after it
has been officially revealed at the highest source of the government.
Think about that for a moment. The President of the United States time
after time after time has bragged on this program and yet pillories the
New York Times and other papers for writing about it.
  The citizens of this country understand that at the end of the day,
the job of protecting our national security falls on the shoulders of
our elected officials, not just on journalists whose primary duty is to
objectively report on the world around us. Our citizens expect this
body to do much more than it is doing here today. They expect it to
follow a higher calling. And they are right.
  Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. SESSIONS. Mr. Speaker, the President of the United States did
speak about this opportunity that we had as a result of what the
Congress passed the law asking and giving the legal authority to the
President to track financial transactions. The Congress had already
spoken about it as we were debating whether we were going to pass that
law. In fact, the President did as a result of these disclosures of
finding terrorists say that we found financial ends and means by which
terrorists were being supported.

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  But I will strongly disagree with the young woman from New York in
her characterization that the President spilled the beans on all of
this. Not true. It was someone going and talking to over 20 people,
revealing intimate details of what the plan was. Not that it existed,
but how it worked, where it was formed, where we gathered information,
how things were done.
  And that is a desperate attempt by someone to go and provide the
enemy with information that would allow them to work around those
things that we had established. What we are talking about is classified
information, not the knowledge that something is happening. And
classified information in detail about not just the summary of this,
but in details, is what we are concerned about today.
  So I disagree with the gentlewoman from New York. I believe that her
characterization is not only wrong, but it is also aimed at the wrong
people. We had hoped and would still hope that the minority today would
see that what we are talking about is sharing of classified information
and that we believe it is the wrong thing to do.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield 6 minutes to the gentleman from Ohio (Mr.
Oxley), the chairman of the Financial Services Committee.
  (Mr. OXLEY asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
  Mr. OXLEY. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Texas for
yielding. And let me say at the outset I appreciate his good work on
the Rules Committee and affording us the opportunity to testify last
evening on this legislation.
  I did not introduce this bill, or this resolution, for political
purposes. I have a deep respect for our process and our institution
here. I introduced that resolution to send a signal that a lot of
people in this Congress, on both sides of the aisle, are pretty sick
and tired of people leaking classified information, secret classified
information, and having the media report it with no responsibility, no
accountability whatsoever.
  They are endangering our fighting men and women in Iraq and all over
the world. They endanger the very freedoms that we enjoy. And it has
been a continual frustration, whether it was the NSA revelations or the
wire-tapping of al Qaeda suspects who are talking to people or emailing
people in the United States.
  This is the third time in a relatively short period of time that this
country has been witness to essentially treasonous behavior on the part
of individuals who leak classified information, clearly against the
law, clearly against the law, and then brazenly reported in the front
pages of major newspapers, aiding and abetting the enemy.

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  We are at war, ladies and gentlemen. Now, some of you folks find that
an inconvenient fact, but we are at war. And when the Congress
responded with the PATRIOT Act shortly after 9/11, that was supported
by a broad array of Members on both sides of the aisle and with
editorials in the New York Times and other newspapers telling the
administration they better get on the case and set up ways that we can
intercept terrorist financing.
  Part of that legislation came out of my committee. We are pretty
proud of what we did in that antimoney laundering, antiterrorist
funding legislation that we made part of the PATRIOT Act. And guess
what? It has worked. Now, that may drive some of these people crazy in
certain editorial boards. But the fact is this program has worked
effectively and efficiently since it was set up for the first time.
  Even the New York Times in their editorial, the editorial board of
the New York Times specifically called on Congress and the
administration to set up programs to intercept and monitor financial
reporting internationally. And this program has worked effectively
well.
  The President of the United States was not dumb enough to go out
there and talk about methods and ways that this program worked, as the
gentleman from Texas said. He talked about the program existing. But he
did not say how it worked on a day-to-day basis. And now we have it
spread all over the news media about how this program works. What is
the average terrorist to think?
  He is going to find a different way to move his money around, that is
what he is going to do. He is going to change his behavior. So this
resolution was set up to first of all say this is a very effective
program. Let me just go over the four basic points of this resolution.
  One, it supports the government's efforts to identify, track, and
pursue terrorists and their financial supporters. Now, if you are
against that, then vote ``no.''
  Two, finds that the Treasury Department's Terrorist Financing
Tracking Program has been conducted in accordance with law, with
appropriate safeguards and reviews to protect individual civil
liberties, and in consultation with and oversight by the Congress. If
you don't like that, then vote against it.
  Three, condemns the unauthorized disclosure of classified
information. Who among us is not going to agree with that?
  Four, calls on the news media organizations to stop disclosing
classified intelligence programs that protect the lives of Americans
and the capability of the government to identify, disrupt and capture
terrorists.
  That is what this resolution says. So read the resolution and then
tell me what part of that resolution you don't agree with. And if you
don't agree with it, then by all means vote ``no.''
  I would like to close by quoting Mort Kondracke in a recent edition
of Roll Call in his column. He says this: ``Would newspapers in the
midst of World War II have printed the fact that the U.S. has broken
German and Japanese codes, enabling the enemy to secure its
communications, or reveal how and where Nazi spies were being
interrogated?''
  Mr. Kondracke goes on to say: ``Nowadays newspapers win Pulitzer
Prizes for such disclosures.'' And then he goes on to say: ``The
situation is very serious; in fact it is dire.'' It is dire. Now, I
don't consider Mort Kondracke to be from the far right. But he has
nailed this basic question that this resolution addresses.
  We all, as Members of Congress, have a responsibility to protect this
Nation and its people. And one of the ways we do it is making sure that
we can track terrorist financing and do it and protect civil liberties,
and we are doing just that.
  And this resolution confirms that. I ask all of the Members on both
sides of the aisle to support this resolution because this is really at
the heart of a gut-check in this country, whether we are going to allow
for this kind of behavior to take place, leaking classified information
and then having newspapers win a Pulitzer Prize as a result.
  Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 2 seconds to say I am
sorry this House did not care about the leaking of Valerie Plame to
that extent.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from Massachusetts
(Mr. McGovern).
  Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, let's be honest. We are here today because
there has not been enough red meat thrown at the Republican base before
the Fourth of July recess. That is why we are here. So just in the nick
of time, we have H. Res. 895.
  The rule for this resolution is of course completely closed. Not even
a substitute is made in order. The Republican leadership of this House
does not even make a pretense of being fair and open and democratic any
more. Under their leadership, this House makes the old politburo look
like a New England town meeting. It is disgraceful.
  This resolution purports to be about protecting our national
security, about protecting the most sensitive secrets in the Federal
Government. Mr. Speaker, no one in this House supports the disclosure
of classified information that could genuinely endanger the lives of
Americans.
  But we all know that is not what is going on here. In reality, it is
an attempt to punish and intimidate the New York Times and other
newspapers for publishing a story about the administration's
surveillance of international financial transactions.
  The Times reported on surveillance of transactions to the Society for
Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication, or SWIFT.
  But as the Boston Globe recently reported, the Bush administration
itself has publicly and repeatedly talked about this issue since
September 11.
  Roger Cressey, a senior White House counterterrorism official until
2003, told the Globe: ``There have been public references to SWIFT
before. The White House is overreaching when they say the New York
Times committed a crime against the war on terror. It has been in the
public domain before.''
  Further, the Globe notes that a report to the U.N. Security Council
in late 2001 said that SWIFT and other worldwide financial clearing
houses ``are critical to processing international banking transactions
and are rich with payment information. The United States has begun to
apply new monitoring techniques to spot and verify suspicious
transactions. The group recommends the adoption of similar mechanisms
by other countries.''
  How many times have we heard the Bush administration talking about
the need to monitor and disrupt terrorist financial transactions? How
many times have we heard them bragging about their success in doing so?
Too many to count. So it does not even pass the laugh test when Members
of Congress start using words like ``treason,'' when they start calling
for criminal prosecution against newspapers, when they circulate
ludicrous Dear Colleague letters threatening to revoke the Times
credentials to cover Congress.
  Even worse, Mr. Speaker, is the rank hypocrisy exposed by this
resolution. The Bush administration and their Republican allies in
Congress say they are outraged by leaks of sensitive information. Well,
as the ranking member on the Rules Committee pointed out, where was
their outrage when White House officials leaked the name of an
undercover CIA officer in an attempt to smear her husband?
  Where was their outrage when White House officials leaked false and
misleading intelligence about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq in
order to bolster their case for war? Those leaks, I should note, were
made to the same New York Times that has their knickers in a twist
today.
  Where was their outrage when General Casey's plan for potential troop
reductions in Iraq suddenly appeared in the Times and in other
newspapers? Now, I assume that given their outrage today, we will never
again see sensitive information attributed to a ``senior administration
official'' or ``a senior House Republican.''
  What is really going on here, Mr. Speaker, is that the administration
and their allies have no problems with leaks to the press when those
leaks advance their political agenda. But if a leak contradicts their
agenda, suddenly they call it treason. They suffer from a case of
selective outrage.

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  This administration is obsessed with secrecy, with controlling the
flow of information in this country, with shutting out the other
branches of government, with signing statements that make clear they
have no intention of following the law, with bullying their critics
into silence by questioning their patriotism.
  Time after time this Congress has acquiesced. For the Republican
leadership, oversight is a four-letter word. Not since Richard Nixon
has it been more important to have an unfettered and free press,
because that is the only check left on the imperial Presidency in
America today.
  Mr. Speaker, I am confident that the American people will see through
this. And I urge my colleagues to do the same. Reject this closed rule
and reject this resolution.

                 [From the Boston Globe, June 28, 2006]

           Terrorist Funds-Tracking No Secret, Some S (Binde

                           (By Bryan Bender)

       Washington.--News reports disclosing the Bush
     administration's use of a special bank surveillance program
     to track terrorist financing spurred outrage in the White
     House and on Capitol Hill, but some specialists pointed out
     yesterday that the government itself has publicly discussed
     its stepped-up efforts to monitor terrorist finances since
     the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
       On Monday, President Bush said it was ``disgraceful'' that
     The New York Times and other media outlets reported last week
     that the US government was quietly monitoring international
     financial transactions handled by an industry-owned
     cooperative in Belgium called the Society for Worldwide
     Interbank Financial Communication, or SWIFT, which is
     controlled by nearly 8,000 institutions in 20 countries. The
     Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, and The Wall Street
     Journal also reported about the program.
       The controversy continued to simmer yesterday when Senator
     Jim Bunning, a Republican of Kentucky, accused the Times of
     ``treason,'' telling reporters in a conference call that it
     ``scares the devil out of me'' that the media would reveal
     such sensitive information. Senator Pat Roberts, a Kansas
     Republican, requested US intelligence agencies to assess
     whether the reports have damaged anti-terrorism operations.
     And Representative Peter King, the chairman of the House
     Homeland Security Committee, has urged Attorney General
     Albetrto Gonzalez to pursue ``possible criminal prosecution''
     of the Times, which has reported on other secret government
     surveillance programs. The New York Times Co. owns The Boston
     Globe.
       But a search of public records--government documents posted
     on the Internet, congressional testimony, guidelines for bank
     examiners, and even an executive order President Bush signed
     in September 2001--describe how US authorities have openly
     sought new tools to track terrorist financing since 2001.
     That includes getting access to information about terrorist-
     linked wire transfers and other transactions, including those
     that travel through SWIFT.
       ``There have peen public references to SWIFT before,'' said
     Roger Cressey, a senior White House counterterrorism official
     until 2003. ``The White House is overreaching when they say
     [The New York Times committed] a crime against the war on
     terror. It has been in the public domain before.''
       Victor D. Comrass, a former US diplomat who oversaw efforts
     at the United Nations to improve international measures to
     combat terror financing, said it was common knowledge that
     worldwide financial transactions were being closely monitored
     for links to terrorists. ``A lot of people were aware that
     this was going on,'' said Comras, one of a half-dozen
     financial experts UN Secretary General Kofi Annan recruited
     for the task.
       ``Unless they were pretty dumb, they had to assume'' their
     transactions were being monitored, Comras said of terrorist
     group. ``We have spent the last four years bragging how
     effective we have been in tracking terrorist financing.''
       Indeed, a report that Comras co-authored in 2002 for the UN
     Security Council specifically mentioned SWIFT as a source of
     financial information that the United States had tapped into.
     The system, which handles trillions of dollars in worldwide
     transactions each day, serves as a main hub for banks and
     other financial institutions that move money around the
     world. According to The New York Times, SWIFT executives
     agreed to give the Treasury Department and the CIA broad
     access to its database.
       SWIFT and other worldwide financial clearinghouses ``are
     critical to processing international banking transactions and
     are rich with payment information,'' according to the 33-page
     report by the terrorist monitoring group established by the
     UN Security Council in late 2001. ``The United States has
     begun to apply new monitoring techniques to spot and verify
     suspicious transactions. The group recommends the adoption
     of similar mechanisms by other countries.''
       Some worry that the new disclosures will nonetheless hamper
     US counter-terrorism efforts.
       ``I worked this stuff and I can guarantee that [revealing
     the SWIFT] information made a difference,'' said Dennis
     Lormel, a retired FBI special agent who helped establish the
     bureau's Terrorist Financing Operations Section before
     leaving government in 2003. ``The disclosure will have an
     adverse impact on investigations. It was used in two specific
     instances where it helped to track terrorists. We also used
     it for lead value.''
       But the White House has also been very public about its
     efforts to track the overseas banking transactions of
     Americans and other foreign nationals.
       Less than two weeks after the 9/11 attacks, Bush signed an
     executive order calling for greater cooperation with foreign
     entities to monitor money that might be headed to terrorist
     groups. The executive order was posted on the White House
     website.
       The document called for ``cooperation with, and sharing
     information by, United States and foreign financial
     institutions as an additional tool to enable the United
     States to combat the financing of terrorism.''
       Richard Newcomb, the head of the Treasury Department's
     Office of Foreign Asset Control at the time, later publicly
     credited the president for enabling US law enforcement and
     intelligence agencies to nab suspected terrorists, including
     followers of ``Hambali,'' Al Qaeda's leader in Southeast
     Asia. The New York Times report said Hambali's capture in
     2003 came with the aid of information gleaned from SWIFT.
       Administration officials have said this week that the
     disclosure of such details were particularly damaging to US
     security.
       Nevertheless, in July 2003--a month before Hambali was
     captured--Newcomb told the Senate Government Affairs
     Committee in detail about a program initiated after 9/11
     between his office and the Pentagon to track Hambali's
     financial network in Southeast Asia. The scope of the project
     included Indonesia, the Philippines, Malaysia, and Singapore,
     focusing on the finances of Jemaa Islamiyah, the Al Qaeda
     group run by Hambali that was responsible for deadly bombings
     in Bali in 2002.
       He said the operation ``identified the key leaders, fund-
     raisers, businessmen, recruiters, companies, charities,
     mosques, and schools that were part of [Jamaa Islamiyah]
     support network. Thus far, we have imposed sanctions against
     two of these key nodes, and are coordinating action against
     several others,'' Newcomb told the committee.
       Other public documents have also detailed post-9/11 efforts
     to follow terrorist money.
       The Patriot Act approved by Congress after the attacks
     emphasized providing new authorities for the Bush
     administration to track and choke off terrorist funds around
     the world. One part of the act, dealing specifically with
     terrorist money, was described by the Treasury Department as
     the most ``significant [anti-money-laundering] law'' since a
     1970 law requiring banks to report cash transactions over
     $10,000.
       That section of the Patriot Act required the Bush
     administration to ``adopt regulations to encourage further
     cooperation among financial institutions, their regulatory
     authorities, and law enforcement authorities'' to track
     terrorist-related money laundering.
       In testimony before Congress in early 2002, Juan C. Zarate,
     deputy assistant Treasury secretary in charge of terrorism
     and violent crime, discussed how the global exchange of
     information was a key element in choking off their source of
     funds.
       He cited a special international meeting hosted a month
     after the attacks by the International Financial Crimes
     Enforcement Network, ``to eliminate existing impediments to
     exchanging information'' between financial institutions and
     to find solutions to the challenges of tracking terrorist
     funds.

  Mr. SESSIONS. Well, we just heard it. It's okay to leak classified
information. New York Times, it's okay. Democrat Party, no problem.
That is what the power of the press should be all about. We need them
now more than ever, Mr. Speaker.
  Mr. Speaker, I disagree with that.
  Mr. McGOVERN. Will the gentleman yield?
  Mr. SESSIONS. Leaking classified information is wrong.
  Mr. McGOVERN. That is not what I said.
  Mr. SESSIONS. And the----
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Simpson). The gentleman from Texas
controls the time.
  Mr. SESSIONS. Mr. Speaker, we are asking for all Members of Congress
to universally say today we believe the leaking of classified
information is wrong. And that is what we are here for today. I am
disappointed that we have Members of this body that say that is what a
free press is all about, to leak classified information.
  Mr. McGOVERN. Will the gentleman yield?
  Mr. SESSIONS. It is a real sad day in this House, Mr. Speaker.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Kansas (Mr.
Tiahrt).
  Mr. TIAHRT. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Texas for
yielding me time.
  Mr. Speaker, this country is witnessing disgraceful and illegal leaks
of classified programs and processes that have successfully protected
this country from attacks since September 11, 2001.

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  The evidence is printed in black and white in our own newspapers.
Revealing those classified programs is very damaging to our Nation and
to the safety and security of our citizens. I believe those reports
revealing successful classified tools to combat terrorism will also
cost millions and millions of dollars as well as the loss of safety. It
is simply wrong. It is illegal.
  The gentleman from Ohio pointed out that this is not the first time
leaks have occurred.

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  It should be the last. It must be stopped now. In fact, Mr. Speaker,
it is my hope that the Department of Justice will convene a grand jury
and provide immunity to the papers, to the editors and to the reporters
if, and only if, they will reveal their government sources, the real
cause of the leaks. Then I hope we will prosecute them, and I hope that
the judge will hold them in contempt if they fail to produce these
sources.
  I believe these government leakers are politically motivated. They
are doing it to embarrass this administration, and this is why the
minority wants to protect them. The leakers were not successful, nor
were the papers. They have not embarrassed this administration, but the
leakers have damaged the security and our relationship with our
partners.
  Mr. Speaker, Congress needs to send a strong message condemning these
leaks. We must stop the leakers, the government leakers, because they
jeopardize us all.
  Mr. Speaker, I hope we pass this rule and we pass this bill and send
a very strong message that we will not tolerate leaks coming from our
government that harm our citizens.
  Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, for the purposes of clarification, I
yield 30 seconds to the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. McGovern).
  Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, for the record, I just want to state that
I deeply resent the gentleman from Texas deliberately mischaracterizing
what I said here on the House floor; and let me repeat for him what I
said: That no one in this House supports the disclosure of classified
information that could endanger the lives of Americans.
  I would simply say to the gentleman from Texas that the American
people are sick and tired of the smears that have gone on here. We can
have a debate. You don't need to smear or mischaracterize what I said.
  Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 5\1/2\ minutes to
the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Matsui).
  Ms. MATSUI. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentlewoman from New York for
yielding me this time and for her leadership on our committee.
  Mr. Speaker, today we debate a resolution with far-reaching
implications. It affirms the legal authority for the so-called
Terrorist Finance Tracking program. It would also condemn the
unauthorized disclosure of classified information. Finally, it sets the
expectation that news outlets will yield to the government's decision
whether or not to publish stories with classified information.
  A vote in favor of this resolution would affirm each of these points:
Assertions about a classified program that cannot be proved or
disproved with the limited information available; assertions that
implicitly threaten the freedom of press enshrined in our Constitution.
  Because of the closed rule, Members are prevented from correcting its
inaccuracies. So if the choice is simply an up-or-down vote, the
resolution must be voted down.
  Mr. Speaker, it is unclear how the information disclosed by the Wall
Street Journal and New York Times and several other newspapers around
the country differed from what was already in the public record.
  As the Boston Globe documented yesterday, anyone with an Internet
connection could have read the President's executive order authorizing
increased efforts to track terrorist financing.
  Public testimony to Congress has described how the administration is
actively utilizing wire transfers and other financial transactions to
track terrorists around the globe. As one former U.S. diplomat noted,
``We have spent the last four years bragging how effective we have been
in tracking terrorist financing.''
  Tracking financial transactions is a general principle of
counterterrorism. The question should be the specific ways this
administration uses this tool.
  The administration's actions have indicated consistently that, in a
time of war, it is above the law. This raises the concern over how well
we as a Nation strike the balance between security and civil liberty
and how we scrutinize the outcome.
  This leads to a second, important point. Consultation and oversight
by the full House and Senate Intelligence Committees is required to
check the potential for abuse of power. It is not clear this happened
as the resolution asserts.
  Many Members sitting on those panels do not think the limited
information given to them meets the required threshold of consultation.
Without that, this body cannot judge the program's legal basis, nor
ensure a balance is struck between security and civil liberties.
  Notwithstanding information already in the public domain, some
government officials may have disclosed classified information about
this program. As a result, the Director of National Intelligence has
begun a classified investigation. Anyone who leaked this information
should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
  Recent history is not encouraging, however. Three years ago next
month, classified information was deliberately leaked to the press for
political purposes by one or more senior White House officials. The
intelligence community expressed outrage over the disclosure of Valerie
Plame. A network of U.S. intelligence sources developed over the course
of several decades was endangered.
  At no time did the House leadership bring a resolution to the floor
condemning the leak. Every effort by Democrats to investigate the
incident was blocked. While the resolution before us references other
past leaks of classified information by name, it remains silent about
this particular incident.
  Mr. Speaker, the fundamental challenge facing our Nation in the
aftermath of 9/11 is how to guarantee the security of our citizens
without sacrificing the fundamental principles upon which this great
Nation is founded. Guaranteeing security is about the end goal.
Guaranteeing those fundamental principles is about how we get there. We
cannot allow either principle to erode, and the wisdom of including
both in our Nation's founding document indicates that our greatest
leaders did not see these ideas as contradictory.
  My local newspaper, the Sacramento Bee, has an editorial of their own
this morning which speaks to this subject, and I will insert the full
text into the record at the end, but it reads in part, ``The first
amendment's durability rests not only on its text but on a long-
standing unwritten bargain between government and the press that both
will do their best to avoid straying over that line.''
  I could not agree more. I urge my colleagues to reject this rule and
the underlying resolution.

                     Editorial: Who's Overreaching?

       President Bush has condemned as ``disgraceful'' several
     newspapers'' reports about a government program that monitors
     international financial transactions. Some congressional
     Republicans go further: Sen. Jim Bunning of Kentucky accused
     the New York Times of ``treason'' and Senate Intelligence
     Committee Chairman Pat Roberts of Kansas wants intelligence
     agencies to assess the extent of damage to national security.
       What's ironic about this is, first, that the news reports,
     while they added much detail, merely described a program
     that's been no secret to anyone who has followed the
     administration's anti-terrorist efforts. And if there's any
     investigative tool that most Americans would probably agree
     is a proper one, it's tracking suspected terrorist finances.
       A major component of that tool has been a Belgium-based
     database called SWIFT--Society for Worldwide Interbank
     Financial Telecommunication--that tracks millions of
     financial' transfers, many of them between this country and
     others. SWIFT serves as a clearinghouse for financial
     institutions worldwide. The president was infuriated because,
     he said, disclosure of the program to tap into SWIFT's
     database ``does great harm to . . . America'' by tipping off
     suspects.
       That's debatable.
       Amid the hue and cry from the White House and Capitol Hill,
     less fevered voices

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     tried to put things in perspective. Roger Cressey, a former
     U.S. counterterrorism official, said the White House is
     ``overreaching,'' that the SWIFT program ``has been in the
     public domain before.'' And a former U.S. diplomat, Victor
     Comras, who was involved at the United Nations in efforts to
     combat terrorist financing, told the Boston Globe: ``A lot of
     people were aware that this was going on,'' and that ``unless
     they [terrorists] were pretty dumb, they had to assume''
     their transactions were being monitored.
       That makes sense. And so do the frenzied calls to crack
     down on the news media, at least in a politically partisan
     sense.
       Never mind that some members of Congress had been briefed
     on the program and that all Americans have known for years
     about the Government's efforts to uncover terrorist financial
     movements and seize assets.
       This issue provides a convenient campaign weapon for
     supporters of the Bush administration to use against ``soft-
     on-terrorism'' officeholders, especially Democrats, and
     against critics in the news media. All of the frothing in
     Washington raises the possibility that some in Congress will
     seek to muzzle the press with legislation, subpoenas or other
     means of intimidation. The long-term effects of such actions
     might stifle the free flow of information in a society that
     treasures it, but whose current administration not only has
     an overdeveloped passion for secrecy but has used that
     secrecy to cover an array of abuses, including the abuse of
     people in U.S. custody, some of whom turned out to be
     innocent.
       Such actions have tarnished America's reputation and
     subverted its values. They deserve to be held up to the light
     of day, no matter how unflattering the result may be to those
     now in power.
       The line between what's fair to publish and what might hurt
     national security is a blurry one. The First Amendment's
     durability rests not only on its text, but on a long-standing
     unwritten bargain between government and the press that both
     will do their best to avoid straying over that line. The
     burden is on an administration that has gone much too far in
     the name of national security to show that news organizations
     have done the same in the name of press freedom. That's not
     evident.

  Mr. SESSIONS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from
Michigan (Mrs. Miller).
  Mrs. MILLER of Michigan. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for
yielding.
  Mr. Speaker, following the absolutely horrific attacks on our Nation
of 9/11, the news media condemned our government for not connecting the
dots on how we could have prevented those attacks. We have had
government employees who spoke of their inability to gather necessary
information or to share that information with others in government.
  The 9/11 Commission stated the need to be more aggressive in
gathering information on those who seek to murder our fellow citizens.
To address this problem, Congress authorized the administration to take
all appropriate measures to track down the terrorists; and the
administration has done so, with the appropriate oversight by our
Intelligence Committees.
  But now some in government service who have been entrusted with Top
Secret classified information have repeatedly taken it upon themselves
to illegally leak those secrets; and they have leaked those secrets to
a news media, some of them all too willing to give our playbook to the
enemy, giving them the opportunity to adapt and to evade, the same news
media that had previously condemned our government's inability to
uncover terrorist plots.
  By illegally leaking and irresponsibly publishing our secrets, the
lives of our fellow citizens, our fellow Americans and our brave men
and women in uniform who defend our freedom are endangered.
  It is certainly disappointing, but not surprising, that my colleagues
on the Democratic side see this issue in light of how it might be used
to their political advantage, rather than wondering how it might
seriously undermine our national security.
  I would urge my colleagues to send a very strong message that this
Congress will not stand idly by while loose lips are allowed to cost
innocent lives.
  Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 6 minutes to the
gentleman from Florida (Mr. Hastings).
  Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I thank Ranking Member
Slaughter for your extraordinary leadership on not just this subject
but countless subjects dealing with the liberties of American citizens.
  Last night in the Rules Committee, Ms. Slaughter said that this was
an historic moment. I could not agree more with that fact.
  This does not call for hyperbole or hyperventilation or fancy
rhetorical flourishes. This particular measure has the weight that must
have existed at the time that the Founding Fathers and Mothers of this
country gave birth to the first amendment of the United States
Constitution.
  If there had been no reporting in the free press during the period of
the colonies as to what King George and those persons were doing, there
may never have been an American Revolution.
  Almost exactly 35 years ago, the eminent Mr. Justice Potter Stewart
in the Pentagon Papers said this: ``In the absence of the governmental
checks and balances present in other areas of our national life, the
only effective restraint upon executive policy and power in the areas
of national defense and international affairs may lie in an enlightened
citizenry, in an informed and critical public opinion which alone can
here protect the values of democratic government,'' he wrote.
  He continued, ``For this reason, it is perhaps here that a press that
is alert, aware, and free most vitally serves the basic purpose of the
first amendment. For without an informed and free press, there cannot
be an enlightened people.''
  I have had the distinct privilege of being the president of an
international organization, the Organization for Security and
Cooperation in Europe, its parliamentary assembly that Ms. Slaughter
and others are members of as well; and during that period I was the
lead election monitor in places where democracy is trying to find root
but in places where journalists courageously went forward to offer
information that should be offered against those administrations,
Belarus being an example of that, where there is no free press and
where the people cannot rise up, as they did in Ukraine where the press
played a major role.
  I believe this administration operates on the premise the best
defense is a good offense. It is never any accountability with them. It
is always somebody else did something. A guy lost his election to one
of our distinguished colleagues from Utah last week. He said the devil
was the reason that he did not have his campaign money. Maybe it is the
devil that makes them do this.
  We have flag burning proposals for constitutional amendment. We have
gay marriage proposals for constitutional amendment. Yet when it comes
to the basic freedom and liberty of this country, the press, we are
presented with a resolution that condemns them. That is all it does. It
does not sanction. It condemns them.
  It is our opportunity to vent and say little things about The New
York Times. Please add The Washington Times. Please add The Wall Street
Journal. Please add other media entities that have reported along these
lines.
  I do not believe in what Fox News says, but I believe, and I do, for
their right to say it.
  You know better than to seek to amend the first amendment, and let us
look at this resolution.

                              {time}  1345

  It is factually inaccurate when you say, ``Whereas appropriate
Members of Congress, including the members of the Committee on
Intelligence of the Senate and House of Representatives.'' I am a
member of that committee. You say that they were briefed, and I am here
to tell you that every member of that committee was not briefed on this
particular program.
  But I want you to listen to Ben Franklin. I want all of you to listen
to Ben Franklin. He said, ``Those who would give up essential liberty
to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor
safety.''
  Find all of the leakers, prosecute them, put them in jail, but let a
free press stand in this Nation.
  Mr. SESSIONS. Mr. Speaker, last night at the Rules Committee we had
an opportunity to digest a lot of information about this, not only
about the program but also about, theoretically, who knew what, where,
and when. It is my understanding that every single member of the
Intelligence House Committee received an invitation to attend a
briefing. That is not an indication that every single member attended
that open invitation.
  I would allow the chairman of the Intelligence Committee, the
gentleman

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from Michigan (Mr. Hoekstra), 1 minute.
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. I thank my colleague for yielding. I have got the list
of who was briefed, when they were briefed. The first briefing of the
Intelligence Committee goes back to March of 2002, where the chairman
and then the former ranking member of the committee were briefed. I
have the briefing dates for Members, of when members of the committee
were briefed. I have the dates for when the staff was briefed on the
HPSCI Committee.
  Staff was briefed as early as March of 2002. Staff was briefed in
2003, 2005, 2005, 2006, 2006, and 2006.
  Alcee, these records indicate that you also had the opportunity and
you were at a briefing session on this program.
  Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. I yield to the gentleman from Florida.
  Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Is the gentleman referring to the financial
services program, as offered?
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. On the financial services program, that is correct.
  Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. I would like to see that exact date, and I
am here to tell you that we didn't receive such a briefing. And if you
can tell me that this resolution holds that every member was briefed, I
am here to tell you that that is not true.
  Mr. SESSIONS. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 4\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman
from Massachusetts (Mr. Frank).
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Mr. Speaker, my colleague, the chairman
of the Financial Services Committee, asked us to say where we disagree
with this resolution. I would be glad to tell you that.
  This resolution makes factual assertions that I do not believe any
Member of the House can confidently and honestly make, and certainly
not more than four or five could even pretend.
  It says, for example, in the resolved clause that we know, those of
us who would be voting for this, as a fact ``that the program has been
conducted in accordance with all applicable laws, regulations, and
executive orders; that appropriate safeguards have been used and been
instituted to protect individuals' civil liberties.''
  I don't believe any Member knows that. Maybe one or two will claim
that. Do Members feel free to vote for things and say they know things
which they don't?
  It is also true in the whereases: ``Whereas the terrorist finance
program consists of the appropriate and limited use of transaction
information while maintaining respect for individual privacy.''
  That may or may not be the case, but Members here don't know it. And
let me talk about briefings, by the way. I am the senior Democrat on
Financial Services, and I have been for 3\1/2\ years. I was, about a
month ago, asked to a briefing. I was asked to a briefing and told that
this was about to be made public and, therefore, they were going to
brief me. But that if I listened to the briefing, when it was made
public I couldn't talk about it.
  Yes, I did not accept that briefing. It was a briefing only because
it was about to be made public, and then I could not talk about it. But
even if I had had the briefing, I do not believe I could in good
conscience say these things.
  Now, there are Members here who may have such faith in their
administration that they will claim to say things which I know they
don't know. Yes, faith-based programs are very useful, but I don't
think faith-based resolutions do our job.
  So I don't know that these things are wrong, but I disagree with
making factual assertions about the program that may not be correct.
  There is another factual assertion that may not be correct. And I
know there has been a lot of concern about the Times. In the Republican
majority's resolution there is an attack on the Times. It doesn't
mention them. Quite sensitively, it doesn't mention the Times, but it
talks about one of the most damaging allegations I have seen about a
leak.
  It says, on the bottom of page 2: ``In 1998, disclosure of classified
information regarding efforts to monitor the communication of Osama bin
Laden eliminated a valuable source of intelligence information on al
Qaeda's activities.'' Now, that is a serious accusation to make against
the Times. It is, of course, the Washington Times. Somehow, that
adjective sort of disappeared.
  There has been a lot of talk about the New York Times. It is the
Washington Times who is referred to in your own resolution, Mr.
Speaker, as having done a far more damaging specific thing. But the
Washington Post came to the defense of the Washington Times and said,
no, that was already known. Well, that is in controversy.
  I am not prepared to vote for the resolution which accuses and
convicts the Washington Times of having foiled our efforts to find
Osama bin Laden when I don't know that as a fact. The Washington Post
says it is unfair to the Washington Times.
  You may be prepared, Mr. Speaker, to condemn the Washington Times so
clearly for undermining our efforts to find Osama bin Laden. I am not.
  But we are only here partly about the specifics. This is an outrage,
the procedure. I do not understand how Members can hold up their heads
when they advocate this.
  Well over half of the Democratic Members saw this resolution for the
first time at 4:15. There was no consultation about the draft. It was
drafted entirely in a partisan way. We looked at it and said, we agree
with some of it and not others. Yes, I think almost all Democrats agree
that we should track the financial doings.
  We have a resolution which takes much of the language from the
Republican resolution and says that. It says we are in favor of
tracking things, and we condemn leaks. We think it is wrong for people
to leak. So we would like to have that in there. But we don't want to
have to say, at the same time, that the Bush administration has done
everything perfectly. We don't want to make some of the criticisms of
the media that you make, including this denunciation of the Washington
Times.
  We are asking for a chance, in a democracy, to put forward our
resolution where we could make clear that we disagree with some of the
leaking; where we make clear that we think you should track the
financial records of the terrorists; but we do not want to have to say
that we also agree with the administration. That would seem to me a
reasonable choice.
  Mr. Speaker, to the discredit of the Republican Party, you have
denied us that choice. This is not democracy, this is plebiscitary
democracy. You demand a ``yes'' or ``no.'' Mubarak and Peron and Hugo
Chavez would be proud of your understanding of the democratic process.
  Mr. SESSIONS. Mr. Speaker, you know, we do talk about disclosure,
unauthorized disclosure of information. But I fail to see where this
resolution talks about any newspaper where we mention them. We
intentionally chose not to do that because that is not what the
resolution is about today, Mr. Speaker.
  Time after time we have heard our Democrat colleagues mention
newspapers by name. That is not what this was about. We are simply
trying to say that we believe that information that is considered
private, sensitive, and that should not be disclosed should not be
done.
  It would be very simple for us to understand that the President may
say, you know, we have spies that work for the United States, but if he
disclosed who they were, what they did, how they went about doing their
business, where they were located, who they came into contact with and
their MO about how they did things, that clearly would be something
that would be out of order.
  So I will tell you, Mr. Speaker, we intentionally have not tried to
chastise anyone. We are simply saying we believe the unauthorized
disclosure should not be revealed.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Michigan (Mr.
McCotter).
  Mr. McCOTTER. Mr. Speaker, once again, the Nation finds itself
engaged in a world war against abject evil. And in the process, it is
always wise to look back to the last world war against abject evil, one
which was led by the greatest Democratic President, one of the greatest
Presidents ever, Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

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  We must learn not only from the past how to win this struggle but we
must look to the past to see that we do not repeat some of the mistakes
that were made by the government at the time, most notably the
internment of our fellow citizens of Japanese descent in internment
camps.
  In that process, I do believe that the press has an invaluable role.
It has an invaluable role as a watchdog of democracy and liberty, and
it has an expressed constitutional right to do so. What this resolution
I believe would help to do, however, is to rectify the current mistake
that is being made in a time of war, whereas classified information is
being broadcast on the basis of potential abuse rather than actual
abuse.
  I think that we must further that debate and come back to the
realization that potential abuse is a very nebulous standard and which,
fortunately, was not applied in World War II to classified information,
or there would have been no Manhattan Project.
  Further, I think it is also wise to look back at the relationship
between the government and the press at the time of World War II.
President Roosevelt was fond of bringing reporters into his office, and
he would engage in off-the-record conversations with them so that they
were aware that he trusted them and that then he could reciprocate that
trust to the reporters.
  At one point, some of the off-the-record briefing appeared in a
column in a paper. At the next meeting of the assembled press in the
Oval Office, Franklin Roosevelt gave that reporter a gift. It was an
iron cross.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge that we support this rule, this resolution, and
that we all continue to encourage the debate where the differentiation
between potential abuse and actual abuse and the Nation's interest in
the defense of our citizens' lives is ever remembered.
  Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I yield for a unanimous consent request
to the gentleman from Washington (Mr. Inslee).
  (Mr. INSLEE asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
  Mr. INSLEE. Mr. Speaker, I wish to state for the record my objection
to the Republicans' refusal to be indignant about the outing of a spy
by the administration.
  Ms. SLAUGHTER. I yield for a unanimous consent request to the
gentleman from California (Mr. George Miller).
  (Mr. GEORGE MILLER of California asked and was given permission to
revise and extend his remarks.)
  Mr. GEORGE MILLER of California. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to
the rule and this measure.
  Mr. Speaker, today the House will vote on a resolution that is
allegedly intended to reaffirm Congress's support for stemming the flow
of money to terrorists. I support efforts by this Administration to cut
the financial supply lines to terrorists.
  But the resolution before us today is really just an open-faced
attack on America's free press for telling the American people what its
government is doing.
  After 9/11, the Bush Administration announced that one of the ways it
would go after terrorists was by cutting off their funding sources. A
major part of this effort has been monitoring suspect international
financial transactions.
  I believe that, at the time, this was the correct decision. We can
and must do everything we legally can to protect the country from those
who wish to bring us harm.
  The Administration's efforts to monitor financial transactions have
been a frequent topic of public discussion: By members of the
Administration; in open, on the record Congressional testimony; and in
the United Nations.
  However, to date, I am not aware of any harsh recriminations from the
President or Republicans in Congress as a result of any of these
discussions over the last few years.
  But now that the program has been discussed in the New York Times and
other newspapers, the radical right wing Republican enemies of a free
press in America have come out swinging--again.
  Congress had a choice when the NY Times reported on the SWIFT
program. It could have announced hearings on the effectiveness of the
SWIFT program and on the impact of public reporting on the SWIFT
program. But it did not do that.
  This extremist Congress instead has chosen a different, but very
familiar, path--a partisan political attack for which it has become
famous.
  The Bush Administration and this republican-controlled Congress
represent the most partisan and most anti-free press Republican party
this nation has seen since the days of Richard Nixon and his infamous
`enemies list.'
  The fact remains that this president and this Republican Congress
wants to manipulate the press to its advantage through the use of
covert propaganda and through lying about intelligence and other
matters, but it wants to curb the press's role in communicating to the
American people information about the actions of its government.
  That sounds more like the Soviet Union before the wall came down than
the America that I know and love and whose freedom, and free press, is
so revered around the world.
  The fact is that the party in control of this Congress is out of gas
when it comes to leading, they are out of gas when it comes to big bold
new ideas to re-energize America.
  They have resorted, nearly every day now, to their tired old whipping
posts, including the free press, in a desperate effort to hold on to
their power, an awesome power that they have failed to use to help
America.
  As this bill's sponsor, Mr. Oxley, so wisely stated earlier, we do
need accountability in Government.
  The President promised to hold those accountable in his
Administration involved in leaking the identity of a covert CIA agent
to the press. He has yet to do that. Instead he and his rubberstamp
Congress choose to go after leaked information only when it suits their
political agenda.
  We have yet to hold anyone accountable for the falsified intelligence
about Weapons of Mass Destruction. Instead we get the rubberstamp
Congress's version of a weapon of Mass Distraction just in time for the
November elections.
  This Congress has not held anyone accountable for pulling military
resources away from Afghanistan to prepare for the unjustified war and
occupation of Iraq, which allowed Osama bin Laden to escape capture.
  If only the Administration and its Republican allies in Congress were
as aggressive in attacking Osama bin Laden as they are when attacking
the press, we might be safer as a nation.
  Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. SESSIONS. Mr. Speaker, at this time I would like to yield 2
minutes to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Feeney).
  Mr. FEENEY. I thank my friend from Texas, and I do want to make a few
points here today.
  One thing you have to give my Democratic friends credit for is their
consistency on the war on terror. They have been consistently mad. They
were mad we didn't do more surveillance-wise before 9/11 to stop that
attack; and they have been mad that we have done too much surveillance
since 9/11, which has helped successfully stop another attack,
including attacks in Toronto and New York most recently.
  But I rise here today to talk about the resolution itself. What this
resolution does basically is to tell you, if you operate a flight
school and you have reason to believe that the people learning to fly
planes want to fly planes into American buildings to kill Americans,
you shouldn't warn your students that they may be under surveillance.
You should tell the FBI.
  This resolution sends a message to all the people that operate hotels
that if you are having people stay with you, paying you rent, and you
have reason to believe they are putting together an attack on American
civilians, you shouldn't warn them that they may be under surveillance.
You should tell the FBI.
  If you are a chemistry professor and you have reason to believe that
a student is putting together weapons of mass destruction, like
biological or chemical weapons, you shouldn't warn your student that
they may be subject to surveillance. You should tell the FBI.
  If you are an American banker and you have reason to believe that
your client is depositing money to fund terrorist activities, you
shouldn't warn your client that the American Government may be watching
you. You should tell the FBI.
  And, yes, it does tell American newspapers that if you are loyal, you
should not deliberately give sensitive and secret information to the
entire world of people that want to do us harm.
  Finally, it says to every employee of the United States Government
that if you deliberately leak sensitive information that you have
access to that you may have committed treason and you may be a traitor.
  Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I continue to reserve.

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  Mr. SESSIONS. Mr. Speaker, at this time I would like to yield 2
minutes to the gentleman from the great State of Georgia (Mr. Gingrey).

                              {time}  1400

  Mr. GINGREY. Mr. Speaker, I think it would be instructive for all of
our colleagues to let me read briefly the synopsis of this resolution:
Supporting intelligence and law enforcement programs to track
terrorists and terrorist finances conducted consistent with Federal law
and with appropriate Congressional consultation, as we heard from
Chairman Hoekstra a minute ago, and specifically condemning the
disclosure and publication of classified information that impairs the
international fight against terrorism and needlessly exposes Americans
to the threat of further terror attacks by revealing a crucial method
by which terrorists are traced through their finances.
  Mr. Speaker, we heard a little while ago from the gentleman, the very
intelligent gentleman from Massachusetts, that resolved number 2 he had
some concerns about. Resolved number 2 basically says, finds that the
Terrorist Finance Tracking Program has been conducted in accordance
with all applicable law, regulations and executive orders, that
appropriate safeguards and reviews have been instituted to protect
individuals' civil liberties.
  He is concerned about that. I grant him that concern. I am not
concerned about it. I am sure if he votes against this rule or against
the resolution, he can explain this to the people of Massachusetts.
  Mr. Speaker, I can explain also my support to the people in the 11th
District of Georgia because, mainly, of resolved number 4, and this is
it. It expects the cooperation of all news media organizations in
protecting the lives of Americans and the capability of the government
to identify, disrupt and capture terrorists by not disclosing
classified intelligence programs leaked to them, such as the Terrorist
Finance Tracking Program.
  I don't care who it is, Mr. Chairman, of what political party or who
they work for. If they are leaking information and putting our men and
women who are doing the fighting and dying for us, putting their lives
in danger, then we need to out them and prosecute them. The media, and
we are not naming names with regard to whether it is The Washington
Post or New York Times, needs to show some responsibility.
  Support the rule and the underlying resolution.
  Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, may I inquire if my colleague has more
requests for time?
  Mr. SESSIONS. Mr. Speaker, we are through with all of our speakers
that we might have. We will then wait for the gentlewoman from New York
to close, and then we will do so.
  Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I will be asking Members to vote ``no''
on the previous question so that I can amend the rule to allow the
House to consider a resolution introduced by Financial Services Ranking
Member Barney Frank instead of the press-bashing resolution made in
order under this rule.
  I ask unanimous consent to print the text of the amendment and a
description immediately prior to the vote on the previous question.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the
gentlewoman from New York?
  There was no objection.
  Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, the Frank substitute resolution expresses
Congress' support for intelligence and law enforcement programs that
track terrorists and terrorist finances and are conducted consistent
with Federal law and with appropriate Congressional consultation.
  Vote ``no'' on the previous question so we can consider this
resolution instead of H. Res. 896. Again, vote ``no'' on the previous
question.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
  Mr. SESSIONS. Mr. Speaker, at this time, I yield all time remaining
to the Chairman of the Rules Committee, the gentleman from California
(Mr. Dreier).
  Mr. DREIER. Mr. Speaker, the day after President Bush gave his
stirring address right here to a joint session of Congress on September
20, 2001, The New York Times editorialized, and I quote, what promises
to be a long and painful fight against a ruthless enemy.
  Mr. Speaker, this was true then, and it remains true today. So it
goes without saying that any information and any intelligence exposed
to the enemy directly hinders our prosecution of the war and directly
threatens the safety of Americans. By relying on illegal leaks of
classified information to publish the details of our government's
program to track terrorist financing, some of our country's biggest
newspapers, led by The New York Times, have imposed their
interpretation of the, quote-unquote, public interest on a public whom
I am confident to say would much rather be safe than be all-knowing.
  Let us be clear, those very newspapers that spilled barrels of ink
about the government not connecting the dots before September 11, 2001,
are now making it much harder to collect, much less connect, the dots
today.
  Mr. Speaker, by all accounts, this was a legal, effective and narrow
program that nabbed high-value terrorists. There were no reported
abuses by the program, and there was no compelling reason to publish
it, which is cause for serious concern. If officials leak information
on programs such as this and newspapers print it, what won't be leaked
and what won't be printed?
  The case was made to newspapers by Democrats, Republicans, and people
inside and outside of the administration that publication of this story
would expose a critical program.
  Our former colleague, Lee Hamilton, and his cochairman of the 9/11
Commission, Tom Kean, were very clear. They were among those people who
made the case. Mr. Kean said in an interview with Byron York, there are
a number of programs which we are using to try to disrupt terrorist
activities, and you never know which one is going to be successful. We
knew that this one already had been.
  Mr. Speaker, it is absolutely critical that we send this very strong
message that this behavior cannot continue.
  The material previously referred to by Ms. Slaughter is as follows:

       Previous Question for H. Res. 896, Rule for H. Res. 895:
     Supporting intelligence and law enforcement programs to track
     terrorists and terrorist finances conducted consistent with
     Federal law and with appropriate Congressional consultation
     and specifically condemning the disclosure and publication of
     classified information that impairs the international fight
     against terrorism and needlessly exposes Americans to the
     threat of further terror attacks by revealing a crucial
     method by which terrorists are traced through their finance.

       Strike all after the resolved clause and insert in lieu
     thereof the following:
       Resolved, That upon the adoption of this resolution it
     shall be in order without intervention of any point of order
     to consider in the House the resolution (H. Res. 900)
     supporting intelligence and law enforcement programs to track
     terrorists and terrorist finances conducted consistent with
     Federal law and with appropriate congressional consultation.
     The resolution shall be considered as read. The previous
     question shall be considered as ordered on the resolution and
     preamble to final adoption without intervening motion or
     demand for division of the question except: (1) one hour of
     debate equally divided and controlled by the chairman and
     ranking minority member of the Committee on Financial
     Services; and (2) one motion to recommit which may not be
     instructions.
                                  ____


        The Vote on the Previous Question: What It Really Means

       This vote, the vote on whether to order the previous
     question on a special rule, is not merely a procedural vote.
     A vote against ordering the previous question is a vote
     against the Republican majority agenda and a vote to allow
     the opposition, at least for the moment, to offer an
     alternative plan. It is a vote about what the House should be
     debating.
       Mr. Clarence Cannon's Precedents of the House of
     Representatives, (VI, 308-311) describes the vote on the
     previous question on the rule as ``a motion to direct or
     control the consideration of the subject before the House
     being made by the Member in charge.'' To defeat the previous
     question is to give the opposition a chance to decide the
     subject before the House. Cannon cites the Speaker's ruling
     of January 13, 1920, to the effect that ``the refusal of the
     House to sustain the demand for the previous question passes
     the control of the resolution to the opposition'' in order to
     offer an amendment. On March 15, 1909, a member of the
     majority party offered a rule resolution. The House defeated
     the previous question and a member of the opposition rose to
     a parliamentary inquiry, asking who was entitled to
     recognition. Speaker Joseph G. Cannon (R-Illinois) said:
     ``The previous question having been refused,

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     the gentleman from New York, Mr. Fitzgerald, who had asked
     the gentleman to yield to him for an amendment, is entitled
     to the first recognition.''
       Because the vote today may look bad for the Republican
     majority they will say ``the vote on the previous question is
     simply a vote on whether to proceed to an immediate vote on
     adopting the resolution * * * [and] has no substantive
     legislative or policy implications whatsoever.'' But that is
     not what they have always said. Listen to the Republican
     Leadership Manual on the Legislative Process in the United
     States House of Representatives, (6th edition, page 135).
     Here's how the Republicans describe the previous question
     vote in their own manual: Although it is generally not
     possible to amend the rule because the majority Member
     controlling the time will not yield for the purpose of
     offering an amendment, the same result may be achieved by
     voting down the previous question on the rule * * * When the
     motion for the previous question is defeated, control of the
     time passes to the Member who led the opposition to ordering
     the previous question. That Member, because he then controls
     the time, may offer an amendment to the rule, or yield for
     the purpose of amendment.''
       Deschler's Procedure in the U.S. House of Representatives,
     the subchapter titled ``Amending Special Rules'' states: ``a
     refusal to order the previous question on such a rule [a
     special rule reported from the Committee on Rules] opens the
     resolution to amendment and further debate.'' (Chapter 21,
     section 21.2) Section 21.3 continues: Upon rejection of the
     motion for the previous question on a resolution reported
     from the Committee on Rules, control shifts to the Member
     leading the opposition to the previous question, who may
     offer a proper amendment or motion and who controls the time
     for debate thereon.''
       Clearly, the vote on the previous question on a rule does
     have substantive policy implications. It is one of the only
     available tools for those who oppose the Republican
     majority's agenda to offer an alternative plan.
  Mr. SESSIONS. Mr. Speaker, I move the previous question on the
resolution.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on ordering the previous
question.
  The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the ayes appeared to have it.
  Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
  The yeas and nays were ordered.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to clause 8 of rule XX, further
proceedings on this question will be postponed.

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Congressional Record: June 29, 2006 (House)
Page H4875-H4890




     SUPPORTING INTELLIGENCE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT PROGRAMS TO TRACK
                   TERRORISTS AND TERRORIST FINANCES

  Mr. OXLEY. Mr. Speaker, pursuant to House Resolution 896, I call up
the resolution (H. Res. 895) supporting intelligence and law
enforcement programs to track terrorists and terrorist finances
conducted consistent with Federal law and with appropriate
Congressional consultation and specifically condemning the disclosure
and publication of classified information that impairs the
international fight against terrorism and needlessly exposes Americans
to the threat of further terror attacks by revealing a crucial method
by which terrorists are traced through their finances, and ask for its
immediate consideration.
  The Clerk read the title of the resolution.
  The text of the resolution is as follows:

                              H. Res. 895

       Whereas the United States is currently engaged in a global
     war on terrorism to prevent future attacks against American
     civilian and military interests at home and abroad;
       Whereas intelligence programs are essential to gathering
     critical information necessary for identifying, disrupting,
     and capturing terrorists before they carry out further
     attacks;
       Whereas there is a national security imperative for
     maintaining the secrecy of our intelligence capabilities from
     our potential enemies;
       Whereas effective intelligence depends on cooperation with
     foreign governments and individuals who trust the United
     States to protect their confidences;
       Whereas the Commission on the Intelligence Capabilities of
     the United States Regarding Weapons of Mass Destruction found
     that ``the scope of damage done to our collection
     capabilities from media disclosures of classified information
     is well documented. Hundreds of serious press leaks have
     significantly impaired U.S. capabilities against our hardest
     targets'';
       Whereas the unauthorized disclosure of sensitive
     intelligence information inflicts significant damage to
     United States activities in the global war on terrorism by
     assisting terrorists in developing countermeasures to evade
     United States intelligence capabilities, costs the United
     States taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars in lost
     capabilities, and ultimately endangers American lives;
       Whereas the 1998 disclosure of classified information
     regarding efforts to monitor the communications of Usama bin
     Laden eliminated a valuable source of intelligence
     information on al Qaeda's activities, an example of the
     significant damage caused by unauthorized disclosures;
       Whereas following the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks,
     Congress passed the USA PATRIOT ACT, which included anti-
     terrorist financing provisions that bolster Federal
     Government and law enforcement capabilities to find and
     disrupt the financiers of terrorist organizations;
       Whereas following the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks,
     the President, with the support of Congress, directed the
     Federal Government to use all appropriate measures to
     identify, track, and pursue not only those persons who commit
     terrorist acts here and abroad, but also those who provide
     financial or other support for terrorist activity;
       Whereas consistent with this directive, the United States
     Government initiated a lawfully classified Terrorist Finance
     Tracking Program and the Secretary of the Treasury issued
     lawful subpoenas to gather information on suspected
     international terrorists through bank transaction
     information;
       Whereas under the Terrorist Finance Tracking Program, the
     United States Government only reviews information as part of
     specific terrorism investigations and based on intelligence
     that leads to targeted searches, such as searches of a
     specific individual or entity;
       Whereas the Terrorist Finance Tracking Program is firmly
     rooted in sound legal authority based on Executive Orders and
     statutory mandates, including the International Emergency
     Economic Powers Act of 1977 and the United Nations
     Participation Act;
       Whereas the Terrorist Finance Tracking Program consists of
     the appropriate and limited use of transaction information
     while maintaining respect for individual privacy;
       Whereas the Terrorist Finance Tracking Program has rigorous
     safeguards and protocols to protect privacy in that record
     searches must identify a terrorism-related basis, and
     regular, independent audits of the program have confirmed
     that the United States Government has consistently observed
     the established safeguards and protocols;
       Whereas appropriate Members of Congress, including the
     members of the Committees on Intelligence of the Senate and
     House of Representatives, have been briefed on the Terrorist
     Finance Tracking Program and have conducted oversight of the
     Program;
       Whereas the Terrorist Finance Tracking Program has
     successfully provided vital intelligence in support of the
     global war on terrorism, including information leading to the
     capture of Hambali, the Operations Chief of Jemaah Islamiyah,
     an al Qaeda affiliate, who masterminded the 2002 nightclub
     bombing in Indonesia that killed over 200 people;
       Whereas the Terrorist Finance Tracking Program has helped
     authorities uncover terrorist financiers worldwide and find
     Uzair Paracha, an al Qaeda money launderer operating in the
     United States;
       Whereas Congress has authorized the Secretary of the
     Treasury to explore the implementation of systems to review
     all cross-border wire transactions;
       Whereas the bipartisan 9/11 Commission recommended that
     ``Vigorous efforts to track terrorist financing must remain
     front and center in U.S. counterterrorism efforts'';
       Whereas persons in positions of trust and responsibility
     granted access to highly sensitive intelligence programs
     violated their solemn obligations not to disclose classified
     information and made unauthorized disclosures regarding the
     program;
       Whereas at some point before June 23, 2006, classified
     information regarding the Terrorist Finance Tracking Program
     was illegally and improperly disclosed to members of the news
     media;

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       Whereas beginning on June 23, 2006, certain media
     organizations knowingly published details about a classified
     program that the United States Government had legally and
     with appropriate safeguards used to track the financing of
     terrorism, including specific intelligence gathering methods;
       Whereas the Administration, Members of Congress, and the
     bipartisan chairmen of the 9/11 Commission requested that
     media organizations not disclose details of the Terrorist
     Finance Tracking Program so that terrorists would not shift
     their financing to channels in the international financial
     system that are less easily observed by intelligence
     agencies;
       Whereas the disclosure of the Terrorist Finance Tracking
     Program has unnecessarily complicated efforts by the United
     States Government to prosecute the war on terror and may have
     placed the lives of Americans in danger both at home and in
     many regions of the world, including active-duty armed forces
     in Iraq and Afghanistan;
       Whereas persons who have access to classified information,
     or who have classified information passed onto them, have a
     responsibility to the people of the United States not to
     endanger the populace through their exercise of the right to
     freedom of speech; and
       Whereas Federal statutes criminalize the unauthorized
     disclosure and publication of sensitive intelligence
     information, regardless of the source: Now, therefore, be it
       Resolved, That the House of Representatives--
       (1) supports efforts to identify, track, and pursue
     suspected foreign terrorists and their financial supporters
     by tracking terrorist money flows and uncovering terrorist
     networks here and abroad, including through the use of the
     Terrorist Finance Tracking Program;
       (2) finds that the Terrorist Finance Tracking Program has
     been conducted in accordance with all applicable laws,
     regulations, and Executive Orders, that appropriate
     safeguards and reviews have been instituted to protect
     individual civil liberties, and that Congress has been
     appropriately informed and consulted for the duration of the
     Program and will continue its oversight of the Program;
       (3) condemns the unauthorized disclosure of classified
     information by those persons responsible and expresses
     concern that the disclosure may endanger the lives of
     American citizens, including members of the Armed Forces, as
     well as individuals and organizations that support United
     States efforts; and
       (4) expects the cooperation of all news media organizations
     in protecting the lives of Americans and the capability of
     the government to identify, disrupt, and capture terrorists
     by not disclosing classified intelligence programs such as
     the Terrorist Finance Tracking Program.

                              {time}  1715

  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to House Resolution 896, the
gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Oxley) and the gentleman from Massachusetts
(Mr. Frank) each will control 30 minutes.
  The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Ohio.
  Mr. OXLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 6 minutes.
  Mr. Speaker, today I am proud to present to the House for our
consideration H. Res. 895, a resolution that expresses the sense of the
House supporting intelligence and law enforcement programs that track
terrorists and terrorist financing. Additionally, the resolution finds
that the Terrorist Finance Tracking Program was conducted lawfully and
with all due protections of civil liberties. The resolution condemns
the unauthorized disclosure of classified information and states that
the House expects the cooperation of news media organizations in these
matters.
  Mr. Speaker, this is a resolution that every Member can and should
support. We are at war. Thanks to the great job being done by our
members of the U.S. military and law enforcement, Americans feel safe
to go about their daily lives, but we are still in fact at war. We
depend on classified programs and classified information in order to
successfully prosecute that war.
  While there is the physical war that is being fought, of course
another critical front in this war is terrorist financing, and that is
where we focus our debate today. It is critical, because where
terrorists place and spend their money is one of the best indicators
about where the terrorists are located, who they are, and where they
may strike again.
  The editors at the New York Times would do well to reread the
editorial they published on September 24 about 2 weeks after September
11, 2001. In part, it reads: ``The Bush administration is preparing new
laws to help track terrorists through their money laundering activity
and is readying an executive order freezing the assets of known
terrorists. Much more is needed, including stricter regulations, the
recruitment of specialized investigators, and greater cooperation with
foreign banking authorities.'' The editorial concludes, ``If America is
going to wage a new kind of war against terrorism, it must act on all
fronts, including the financial one.''
  All of that activity that was recommended by the New York Times so
soon after 9/11 was taking place and was being done with an
extraordinary amount of international financial cooperation by the U.S.
Treasury and its Terrorist Finance Tracking Program. The program was
being conducted in accordance with current U.S. and international law,
with executive orders, with outside audits, and with all proper care
being given to individual liberty. I need to add that it was also being
conducted with significant success.
  And part of that success was because this Congress passed the PATRIOT
Act and our committee stepped forward with antimoney-laundering
provisions that became a part of that PATRIOT Act, so important on the
war against terror.
  However, the recent front-page story in the aforementioned New York
Times cut the legs out from under this program. Now the terrorists are
well informed of the details of our methods and will find other ways to
move money outside of the formal financial system. Now the terrorists
will be driven further underground, and we will have to invest further
years of work to uncover these new methods.
  Unfortunately, a one-day story in the New York Times can ruin years
of careful work by those who work to map terrorist networks and the
flow of terrorist money. Obviously, the editors of the New York Times
are more concerned about their sagging circulation rates and about
damaging the Bush administration than they are about disrupting
terrorist financing.
  For those who may think we are overreacting, all you have to do is go
back just a few days to the arrest of the seven terrorist suspects in
Miami. That cell was looking to gain funding from al Qaeda to attack
American targets. While law enforcement successfully broke that cell in
plenty of time, we need to know about financial transactions like those
while the attacks are in the planning stage.
  In a recent column, Morton Kondracke asked the question: ``Would
newspapers in the midst of World War II have printed the fact that the
U.S. had broken German and Japanese codes, enabling the enemy to secure
its communications? Or would they have revealed how and where Nazi
spies were being interrogated? Nowadays, newspapers win Pulitzer Prizes
for such disclosures.''
  In the same column, Kondracke says: ``But the fundamental problem
infecting much of Congress, the media, and the political class,
especially those left of center, is that they are consumed with
loathing for President Bush and all his works and are prepared to do
anything to undermine him, even if it makes the country less safe.''
  Continuing to quote Kondracke: ``Everyone in Congress and the CIA
should see the movie `United 93' as a reminder of what we are up
against. Muslim fanatics will not only try to destroy the Capitol, but
also explode a nuclear bomb, if they can.''
  Kondracke goes on: ``And people should heed the warning delivered by
Princeton University Professor Bernard Lewis. Lewis cast the struggle
with Islamic extremism in World War II terms. `It is 1937,' he said,
`and we seem to be more in the mode of Chamberlain at Munich rather
than Churchill.'''
  Kondracke, again quoting Lewis: ``Osama bin Laden and other would-be
Hitlers,'' he said, ``consider the United States an effete, degenerate,
pampered enemy incapable of real resistance. It's part of the pattern
that we fight among ourselves as much as against our enemies. This is
more than serious. It's dire.''
  These are the words of a well-respected journalist. A profound
statement from Kondracke, but right on point.
  Another respected voice on the issue is Michael Barone. On
USNews.com, Michael Barone recently said: ``Why do they hate us? Why
does the New York Times print stories that put America more at risk of
attack? They say that these surveillance programs are subject to abuse,
but give no reason to believe that this concern is anything but

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theoretical. We have a press that is at war with an administration
while our country is at war against merciless enemies. The Times is
acting like an adolescent kicking the shins of its parents, hoping to
make them hurt, while confident of remaining safe under their roof.''
  Nobody could have said it better than Michael Barone and Morton
Kondracke.
  Mr. Speaker, this is a very serious issue. That is why the Congress
is debating this resolution. I ask this resolution be supported
strongly on a bipartisan basis.
  I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 5 minutes.
  Mr. Speaker, people who want things to be done in a bipartisan manner
should not engage in extreme partisanship at the outset. The resolution
that is before us was drafted entirely by Republicans with no input
from any Democrat, from the Intelligence Committee, from the Financial
Services Committee, or anywhere else, and presented to us a little over
24 hours ago. We then asked for the right to offer amendments, or at
least a substitute resolution. It was denied.
  I find it extraordinary that repeatedly in the interest and in the
name of democracy the majority degrades democracy. How can it be
justified that no alternative can be offered? How can it be justified
that no amendment can be offered?
  Let me say again: We are telling the Shiia majority in Iraq that in
their parliament they ought to make an effort to include the Sunni;
that it is not simply the majority doing everything, but you work with
the minority. You then give, Mr. Speaker, through your party, the
opposite example by not allowing even a resolution to be offered for us
to be voted on.
  We have an alternative that is supported by a very large majority of
our caucus. And now let me talk about that resolution, because let us
be clear about what is not at issue today.
  We have agreement that the method of tracking terrorists through
their financial dealings is a good thing. The Democratic resolution,
which the majority refuses to allow to be considered in their abusive
use of their majority, says explicitly that we support efforts to
identify and track terrorists and their financial supporters. So if it
isn't unanimous, it is the fault of the majority by doing it so
divisively.
  We also in our resolution deplore the unauthorized disclosure of
classified information. But we talk not simply about people who might
print it, but the people in the administration who might release it.
Earlier today someone said, well, what would happen if you gave out the
name of spies? Well, ask the people in this administration who gave out
the name of Valerie Plame. We hope that something will be done.
  Here is the difference between the two resolutions: the Republican
resolution, drafted entirely by them and withheld from us until its
publication, agrees that we should track terrorist financing. So does
the Democratic resolution. Theirs, however, includes a number of
factual statements that I do not believe we yet have a basis for
making.
  Now, in some cases, some of those factual statements are about things
that turn out, we think, not to have been true. For example, on page 3
of their resolution they have reference to a prior incident in which
the Washington Times was accused of having disclosed classified
information regarding efforts to monitor the communication of Osama bin
Laden.
  They don't mention the Washington Times because they like the
Washington Times. They mention the New York Times. Times, they are a
changing. If it is the New York Times, they don't like it, and they
criticize it. If it is the Washington Times, they talk about a far more
serious allegation about the Washington Times, that it gave away to
Osama bin Laden how we knew where he was, but they don't mention them.
  But now it turns out they may very well have been inaccurate about
that, and I plan to submit an article from The Washington Post that
defends the Washington Times.
  But here is the problem we have: we want to say in our resolution,
and we hoped it could have been unanimous, that we support this kind of
tracking; that we don't want things to be disclosed. But what we are
not prepared to say, and, frankly, nobody here is intellectually
prepared to say it, people may say it on faith, but here is what they
want to say: we find that the program has been conducted in accordance
with all applicable laws, regulations, and executive orders; that
appropriate safeguards and reviews have been instituted to protect
individual civil liberties, and that Congress has been appropriately
informed.
  I think that the part about our being informed is very inaccurate,
and I don't know the answer to the other. What you have done is to
hijack the virtually unanimous support for tracking terrorist financing
into an endorsement of the way the Bush administration has conducted
itself. That is how it became partisan.
  Why should this House vote now to say that the program has been
conducted with all the safeguards, et cetera, et cetera? We don't know
that. Members don't know that. Members on the other side are entitled
to take it on faith. I know faith-based resolutions are very important
to them, but I don't think as Members of the House of Representatives
we ought to be asked to vote, the most solemn thing you do in a
democracy as a representative, on factual statements when people cannot
know whether they are true.
  Again, I want to go back and say, how can you justify, in the name of
democracy, denying us a chance to even present an alternative
resolution supporting this program?

               [From the Washington Post, Dec. 22, 2005]

           File the Bin Laden Phone Leak Under `Urban Myths'

                           (By Glenn Kessler)

       President Bush asserted this week that the news media
     published a U.S. government leak in 1998 about Osama bin
     Laden's use of a satellite phone, alerting the al Qaeda
     leader to government monitoring and prompting him to abandon
     the device.
       The story of the vicious leak that destroyed a valuable
     intelligence operation was first reported by a best-selling
     book, validated by the Sept. 11 commission and then repeated
     by the president.
       But it appears fa be an urban myth.
       The al Qaeda leader's communication to aides via satellite
     phone had already been reported in 1996--and the source of
     the information was another government, the Taliban, which
     ruled Afghanistan at the time.
       The second time a news organization reported on the
     satellite phone, the source was bin Laden himself.
       Causal effects are hard to prove, but other factors could
     have persuaded bin Laden to turn off his satellite phone in
     August 1998. A day earlier, the United States had fired
     dozens of cruise missiles at his training camps, missing him
     by hours.
       Bush made his assertion at a news conference Monday, in
     which he defended his authorization of warrantless monitoring
     of communications between some U.S. citizens and suspected
     terrorists overseas. He fumed that ``the fact that we were
     following Osama bin Laden because he was using a certain type
     of telephone made it into the press as the result of a
     leak.'' He berated the media for ``revealing sources, methods
     and what we use the information for'' and thus helping ``the
     enemy'' change its operations.
       White House spokesman Scott McClellan said Monday that the
     president was referring to an article that appeared in the
     Washington Times on Aug. 21, 1998, the day after the cruise
     missile attack, which was launched in retaliation for the
     bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa two weeks earlier.
     The Sept. 11 commission also cited the article as ``a leak''
     that prompted bin Laden to stop using his satellite phone,
     though it noted that he had added more bodyguards and began
     moving his sleeping place ``frequently and unpredictably''
     after the missile attack.
       Two former Clinton administration officials first fingered
     the Times article in a 2002 book, ``The Age of Sacred
     Terror.'' Daniel Benjamin and Steven Simon wrote that after
     the ``unabashed right-wing newspaper'' published the story,
     bin Laden ``stopped using the satellite phone instantly'' and
     ``the United States lost its best chance to find him.''
       The article, a profile of bin Laden, buried the information
     about his satellite phone in the 21st paragraph. It never
     said that the United States was listening in on bin Laden, as
     the president alleged. The writer, Martin Sieff, said
     yesterday that the information about the phone was ``already
     in the public domain'' when he wrote the story.
       A search of media databases shows that Time magazine had
     first reported on Dec. 16, 1996, that bin Laden ``uses
     satellite phones to contact fellow Islamic militants in
     Europe, the Middle East and Africa.'' Taliban officials
     provided the information, with one official--security chief
     Mulla Abdul Mannan Niazi--telling Time, ``He's in high
     spirits.''
       The day before the Washington Times article was published--
     and the day of the attacks--CNN producer Peter Bergen
     appeared

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     on the network to talk about an interview he had with bin
     Laden in 1997.
       ``He communicates by satellite phone, even though
     Afghanistan in some levels is back in the Middle Ages and a
     country that barely functions,'' Bergen said.
       Bergen noted that as early as 1997, bin Laden's men were
     very concerned about electronic surveillance. ``They scanned
     us electronically,'' he said, because they were worried that
     anyone meeting with bin Laden ``might have some tracking
     device from some intelligence agency.'' In 1996, the Chechen
     insurgent leader Dzhokhar Dudayev was killed by a Russian
     missile that locked in to his satellite phone signal.
       That same day, CBS reported that bin Laden used a satellite
     phone to give a television interview. USA Today ran a profile
     of bin Laden on the same day as the Washington Times's
     article, quoting a former U.S. official about his ``fondness
     for his cell phone.''
       It was not until Sept. 7, 1998--after bin Laden apparently
     stopped using his phone--that a newspaper reported that the
     United States had intercepted his phone calls and obtained
     his voiceprint. U.S. authorities ``used their communications
     intercept capacity to pick up calls placed by bin Laden on
     his Inmarsat satellite phone, despite his apparent use of
     electronic `scramblers,' '' the Los Angeles Times reported.
       Officials could not explain yesterday why they focused on
     the Washington Times story when other news organizations at
     the same time reported on the satellite phone--and that the
     information was not particularly newsworthy.
       ``You got me,'' said Benjamin, who was director for
     counterterrorism on the National Security Council staff at
     the time. ``That was the understanding in the White House and
     the intelligence community. The story ran and the lights went
     out.''
       Lee H. Hamilton, vice chairman of the Sept. 11 commission,
     gave a speech in October in which he said the leak ``was
     terribly damaging.'' Yesterday, he said the commission relied
     on the testimony of three ``very responsible, very senior
     intelligence officers,'' who he said ``linked the Times story
     to the cessation of the use of the phone.'' He said they
     described it as a very serious leak.
       But Hamilton said he did not recall any discussion about
     other news outlets' reports. ``I cannot conceive we would
     have singled out the Washington Times if we knew about all of
     the reporting,'' he said.
       A White House official said last night the administration
     was confident that press reports changed bin Laden's
     behavior. CIA spokesman Tom Crispell declined to comment,
     saying the question involves intelligence sources and
     methods.

  Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. OXLEY. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to recognize the gentleman from
Alabama (Mr. Bachus) for 5 minutes.
  Mr. BACHUS. Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support of House Resolution
895 by Chairman Oxley. I commend Chairman Oxley as the primary sponsor
and author of the USA PATRIOT Act. He has been committed to combating
terrorist financing, and I want to commend him for his tireless efforts
in bringing this resolution to the floor.
  We are at war against a savage and relentless enemy. While Americans
have a long-established right to know about the actions of their
government, when we are at war, when there is a national security
concern, there is also a well-founded historical precedent for
conducting covert actions out of the media spotlight.
  Now, there can be alternatives, as the gentleman from Massachusetts
said, but there can be no alternatives to a strong national defense.
There can be no alternatives to a strong national security. And the
judges of what those are and how to conduct those should not be left to
the New York Times. They are for this body to determine.
  Following the death of Zarqawi, an internal al Qaeda memo was
recovered from his hideout. It explicitly states that al Qaeda's
efforts have been hurt by tightening the resistance's financial
outlets. This statement serves as concrete evidence, concrete evidence
that programs such as the administration's Terrorist Finance Tracking
Program are both necessary and effective.
  Remember, the 9/11 Commission was critical of the government's
failure to track the sources of terrorist financing prior to the
September 11 attack. However, in its final report, the commission
applauded the government-wide effort to combat terrorist financing
after 9/11 for making significant strides in using terrorist finance as
an intelligence tool.
  They were talking about this program. This program was an important
stride.

                              {time}  1730

  Indeed, the program paid big dividends, including the arrest of the
mastermind of the 2002 Bali bombing, a violent bombing that killed 202
innocent people. In fact, he was convicted based on information from
this program, a program The New York Times made a determination to
expose.
  There is no doubt that America and our allies in the war on terror
are safer today because of this program, which is exactly the sort of
protection that Americans want and expect from their government.
  Some question or debate whether al Qaeda knew about this valuable
program. Do they know about it now? Do they know the details? The
answer to the question is, yes, no doubt about it.
  How do they know? Because they put it on the front page of the
newspaper. Not just any paper, but the largest newspaper in the biggest
city in the United States.
  Who are they? They are the editors and publishers of The New York
Times. If you are al Qaeda, the appropriate response to this
publication is thank you. If you are indifferent, the answer is so
what. But if you are an American citizen endangered by terrorists, the
insensitivity, the arrogance, the irresponsibility of this paper and
its publication, then the appropriate response is anger and outrage and
this resolution.
  Now, due to their irresponsible actions, this vital intelligence-
gathering program is virtually defunct. No longer would terrorists
conduct their financial business with the Swift cooperative. Sadly, no
longer will we be able to track their actions. This clearly hampers,
clearly hampers, our Nation's ability to conduct the war on terror.
  Hopefully, our intelligence agencies will devise other means to
effectively monitor our enemies. It won't be easy. They will have to
start over. We won't be restricting their financial operations as well
as we did before this publication. But at least I would hope that if we
do fashion a new program that it will not be reported by the media
outlets who want to get a scoop ahead of national security.
  Let me close by thanking the chairman.
  Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support of House Resolution 895, which
is sponsored by Chairman Oxley, expressing our support for the
Administration's efforts to track terrorist financing through the U.S.
Treasury Department's Terrorist Finance Tracking Program. Chairman
Oxley--one of the primary authors and sponsors of the terrorist
financing provisions in the USA PATRIOT Act--has been committed to
combating terrorist financing, and I want to commend the Chairman for
his tireless efforts and for bringing this resolution to the floor
today.
  We are at war with a savage and relentless enemy. While Americans
have a long-established right to know about the actions of their
government, when we are at war and when there is an overriding national
security concern, there is also a well-founded historical precedent for
conducting covert actions out of the media spotlight.
  Following the death of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, an internal al-Qaeda
memo was recovered from the terrorist's hideout. It explicitly states
that al Qaeda's efforts have been hurt ``by tightening the resistance's
financial outlets.'' This statement serves as concrete evidence that
programs such as the Administration's Terrorist Finance Tracking
Program are both necessary and effective.
  Remember, the 9/11 Commission was critical of the government for its
failure to track the sources of terrorist financing prior to the
September 11th attacks. However, in its final report, the Commission's
Public Discourse Project applauded the government-wide effort to combat
terrorist financing after 9/11 for making ``significant strides in
using terrorism finance as an intelligence tool.'' This program was one
such important stride.
  Indeed, the program paid big dividends, including the arrest of the
mastermind of the 2002 Bali bombing, a bombing in which 202 innocent
people were killed. In fact, he was convicted based on information from
this program.
  There is no doubt that America and our allies in the war on terror
are safer today because of this program, which is exactly the sort of
protection that Americans want and expect from their government to
prevent further terrorist attacks.
  Some question or debate whether al-Qaeda knows about this valuable
program. Do they know about it? Do they know the details? The answer to
the questions is ``yes.'' No doubt about it. How do we know that?
Because they put it on the front page of the newspaper. Not just any
paper, but the largest newspaper in the biggest city of the United
States.

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  Who are they? The editor and publisher of that very paper.
  If you are al-Qaeda, the appropriate response is, ``thank you.''
  If you are indifferent, the answer is, ``so what?''
  If you are an American citizen endangered by the insensitivity,
arrogance and irresponsibility of this newspaper, the appropriate
response is anger and outrage!
  Now, due to their irresponsible actions, this vital intelligence
gathering program is virtually defunct. No longer will terrorists
conduct their financial business with the Swift cooperative, and sadly
no longer will we be able to track their actions. This result clearly
hampers our nation's ability to conduct the War on Terror.
  Hopefully, our intelligence agencies will devise other means of
effectively monitoring our enemies and restricting their financial
operations at least until that program, too, is reported by media
outlets that place getting a scoop ahead of national security.
Outrageous conduct such as that exhibited in the disclosure of this
legal, effective program cannot be allowed to escape just condemnation.
Therefore, this resolution.
  Let me close by again thanking this Administration and Chairman Oxley
for their efforts in combating terrorist financing. Their dedication
and vigilance with regard to these issues have made our nation and the
world a safer place.
  I urge my colleagues to support House Resolution 895.
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the
leader, the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Pelosi).
  Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Speaker, as we approach the Fourth of July, that
wonderful holiday where we celebrate America's Declaration of
Independence, we must recall that our Founding Fathers understood and
placed in our founding documents the important balance between liberty
and security.
  In that spirit, at the outset, let me reiterate that we all,
Democrats and Republicans alike, support two principles. First, we
support effective tools to fight terrorism, including the tracking of
terrorist financing here and abroad under all applicable laws. Second,
no one here condones disclosure of information that harms our vital
national interest and makes locating terrorists and terrorist networks
and disrupting their plans more difficult.
  These basic principles and their frames, liberty and security, are
contained in a balanced way in the substitute resolution offered by the
distinguished gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Frank). Mr. Frank's
resolution should have been permitted by the rule to be considered
today.
  But, again, in this closed Congress that we are in, we cannot
consider alternatives. We can't even have a motion to recommit. I don't
know what is so good about that as we go into the Fourth of July. But
let us talk about the Republican resolution.
  The Republican resolution before us today is quite clearly a document
for political purposes. It makes sweeping and dubious conclusions on
the facts and legality of the financial transaction surveillance
program, unsupported by any fact-finding or oversight, and based upon
representations by the President.
  In a free society, we all have our roles and responsibilities. As
public officials, we must safeguard our lawful intelligence activities,
many of which have been conducted in secret. We respect that.
  Our media, of course, have their public responsibilities. A free
press is centered on reporting on the workings of government and on
being alert, aware and free. They have an obligation to be responsible
about their reporting of national security and to balance any reporting
with the harm of disclosure.
  Mr. Speaker, the Bush administration lacks credibility when it comes
to complaining about leaks. The administration's record, and that of
this Republican Congress, are marked by selective disclosures of
classified information and selective expressions of displeasure over
leaks.
  When the identity of an undercover CIA officer was disclosed by high-
ranking members of the administration in the White House, as part of a
smear campaign against a critic of the Iraq war, the President did not
fire any of the leakers. In fact, one of them was actually promoted. As
Special Prosecutor Fitzgerald has told us, this disclosure could cause
severe damage and irreparable harm to our national security.
  Similarly, it was recently revealed that President Bush himself was
alleged to have authorized for political purposes the selective leaking
of intelligence information in a National Security Estimate.
  Where was the outrage and the oversight from this Republican
Congress? Nowhere to be seen. Repeatedly, this Republican Congress has
spurned resolutions of inquiry and neglected congressional oversight
responsibility to get to the bottom of leaks by the Bush
administration.
  So let us take this resolution for what it is. It is a campaign
document. The Republican resolution contains a number of statements
that simply cannot be factually confirmed and are not the result of
congressional fact-finding or rigorous congressional oversight. The
Republican resolution also contains a number of statements regarding
the legality of the program and the safeguards it claims protects
individual rights.
  Let me just read what that is. This resolution finds that the
Terrorist Financed Tracking Program has been conducted in accordance
with all applicable laws, regulations, and Executive Orders, that
appropriate safeguards and reviews have been instituted to protect
individual civil liberties, and that Congress has been appropriately
informed and consulted for the duration of the Program and will
continue its oversight of the Program.
  Continue its oversight of the program? There has never been any
oversight of the program. The fact is, because there has never been any
oversight of the program, there isn't one person in this body who will
vote on this resolution who can attest to this statement. You are
asking us to vote on something that we absolutely cannot attest to. Not
any one of you can attest to this as a fact, because it isn't a fact.
  So let us just go to where we began, to our founders, liberty and
security. As I said before, when the identity of an undercover CIA
officer was disclosed by high-ranking members of the administration as
part of a smear tactic, nothing was done. Nothing was done by this
Congress in terms of oversight. Nothing has been done.
  The Frank substitute does not contain any of these unsupported
conclusions. The Frank substitute is a resolution that is balanced and
accurate and should command the support of all Members.
  I intend to vote against this resolution. I wish that we could have
the chance to vote for Mr. Frank's resolution. I think that would have
been in keeping with the intentions of our Founding Fathers.
  But let us keep in mind their constant admonition that in order to
have security, we must have freedom. In order to have freedom, we must
have security. We must have balance. This resolution does not.
  Mr. OXLEY. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that the Chair be
authorized to reduce to 5 minutes the minimum time for electronic
voting, if ordered, on passage of H.R. 4761.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. LaHood). Is there objection to the
request of the gentleman from Ohio?
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Reserving the right to object.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman is recognized on his
reservation.
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. I reserve the right to object. We are
being asked to move this very quickly, I guess, because of the baseball
game.
  If we could get the right to get a vote on our substitute, I wouldn't
object. But as long as we aren't even being allowed to have a vote on
our substitute, I don't know why we should be asked to hurry up the
proceedings.
  I would ask the gentleman if we could get unanimous consent now, in
addition to this, to allow us to present our substitute. If we could
get unanimous consent for that, then I would have no objection to this.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Does the gentleman object?
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. I will object now.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Objection is heard.
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. I ask unanimous consent that the House
allow us to present our substitute for a vote.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the
gentleman from Massachusetts?

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  Mr. OXLEY. I object, and I withdraw my unanimous consent request.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from Kansas (Mr.
Tiahrt).
  Mr. TIAHRT. Mr. Speaker, we are a Nation at war. As a member of the
Intelligence Committee, I am aware of many of the Nation's most
important efforts to fight and win this war. I pay close attention to
our antiterrorist programs, particularly when the details are revealed
without proper authorization and our best efforts are rendered
ineffective.
  I see a trend developing in the growing number of unauthorized
disclosures of classified information. In the past few months, we have
read countless articles revealing details and making allegations about
a host of sensitive national security programs, from the President's
Terrorist Surveillance Program to the Terrorist Finance Tracking
Program.
  Each time, individuals who lack the fortitude to publicly take
responsibility for their actions have leaked the details about these
classified programs. Each time, the news media gladly aids and abets
them by publishing whatever secret that will sell another paper. I am
shocked by the easy attitude of many in the media towards disclosing
our Nation's secrets.
  This past Sunday, June 25, the executive editor of The New York Times
wrote a letter to the readers about the newspaper's decision to publish
the details of the Terrorist Finance Tracking program. For me, the
editor perfectly summed up the prevailing attitude of the media elite.
  He wrote, ``The question we start with as journalists is not `why
publish?' but `why would we withhold information of significance?' We
have sometimes done so, holding stories or editing out details that
could serve those hostile to the United States. But we need a
compelling reason to do so.''
  Frankly, Mr. Speaker, I take issue with that kind of arrogance. I can
offer quite a few compelling reasons.
  First, it is against the law.
  Second, it puts our citizens at risk.
  Third, publishing secrets in the open press cripples our capability
to stop terrorists.
  But don't just take my word for it. The WMD Commission reported this
very fact to the President, and the Commission's precise language is
quoted in the preamble to this resolution.
  Fourth, publishing secrets in the open press costs us the cooperation
of our allies.
  I mentioned earlier that we are a Nation at war, but we are not alone
in this war. The intelligence services of our allies cooperate with us
and share their sense of information with us upon mutual understanding
that this information won't be revealed.
  When the secrets provided to us by our allies wind up on the front
page, that sense of trust is deeply fractured. We appear unable to keep
a secret. Our allies get hurt when they tried to help. They will be
less likely to cooperate with us on sensitive intelligence matters in
the future for fear of compromising their own sources and methods.
  Finally, publishing secrets in the open press undermines people's
confidence in the intelligence community. The American people support
the extraordinary lengths which our government has gone to defend the
Nation against the terrorists on September 11. Moreover, the American
people rightly believe that our intelligence service, like our
military, is the best in the world. The late Mr. Zarqawi could have
attested to both sentiments.
  However, when our secrets get published, the public's confidence in
the intelligence community starts to ebb. Our intelligence community
appears incompetent, unable to maintain the secrecy essential to carry
out the mission. Our intelligence community also appears to be unsure
of itself.
  Mr. Speaker, I have no doubt about our efforts to fight the
terrorists. Our House Intelligence Committee has conducted extensive
oversight of sensitive anti-terror programs, including three briefings
on the Terrorist Surveillance Program. We have had one briefing on the
Terrorist Finance Tracking Program.
  Mr. Speaker, I will like to make a note that the gentlewoman from
California said there were no briefings on this information. I
personally have had a briefing and also six on these various detainee
issues. Unquestionably, these programs are legal, and they were very
effective.
  It is my hope, Mr. Speaker, that the Department of Justice convene a
grand jury, provide immunity to the newspapers, the editors and
reporters, if and only if they would reveal their government sources
for these classified leaks.
  We need to make clear to the men and women of our intelligence
agencies, to our allies and to the American people that these leaks
must and will stop. We need to make clear to those members of the news
media that publishing leaks of sensitive national security information
will not be tolerated.

                              {time}  1745

  This resolution does just that. I offer my support, and I urge my
colleagues in the House to do the same.
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 15 seconds to
note that the substitute resolution we are being prevented from even
allowing to be debated and voted on also condemns the unauthorized leak
of information, and it just does it without the praise which we do not
think has yet been substantiated for the Bush administration.
  I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Conyers).
  (Mr. CONYERS asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
  Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, I want to begin by commending the gentleman
from Massachusetts for the resolution he can't bring to the floor. I am
proud to be a sponsor. And it starts off supporting intelligence and
law enforcement programs to track terrorists and terrorist finances
conducted consistent with Federal law and with appropriate
congressional consultation. What's wrong with that? What makes the
Republican majority not want to hear the discussion on this amendment?
Well, there may be some motive political about this selective crying
out about information.
  The SWIFT story bears no resemblance to security breaches, disclosure
of troop locations, or anything that would compromise the security of
individuals. As a matter of fact, I will insert into the Record the New
York Times editorial of June 28, 2006.
  Mr. Speaker, I want to point out further, where were these screams
when the Los Angeles Times gave out information on this subject matter?
Other newspapers, the Wall Street Journal came out. Nothing was said
there. But now we are really worked up.
  But why weren't we worked up when the information was published when
Judith Miller published her so-called scoops on weapons of mass
destruction in Iraq? Or the leaking of the identity of an undercover
CIA agent? By the way, that is already a felony, as it already exists.
  I cannot support the Oxley resolution. I urge my colleagues to vote
``no'' also.
  It is clear this resolution is rebuking the New York Times for
publishing information on the Government's access to banking records.
In the myriad ``leaks'' that have been published in the press since 9/
11, why is the House acting now, on this issue?
  Because it is politically convenient to do so. When Judith Miller
published her so called ``scoops'' on Weapons of Mass Destruction in
Iraq, where was the majority then? Where was the call for
investigation?
  How about leaking the identity of an undercover CIA agent in an
attempt to discredit her husband who was critical of the
administration? I believe this House refused to take a stand on that
issue numerous times, despite clear evidence that the Vice President
personally leaked information.
  It is clear that the majority would like to pick and choose which
national security information can be reported on by the press. I'd like
to remind them that under the First Amendment, that is not their
prerogative. That is the consequence of a free press--it will sometimes
print stories that the Government disapproves of.
  There are already laws on the books criminalizing the leaking of
classified information. This resolution is absolutely useless in the
fair and thorough application of those laws to recent leaks.
  In fact, the only purpose of this resolution is to chill freedom of
the press, and put reporters and their papers on notice that the
Republican majority will come for anyone who doesn't clear their
stories with the administration first.
  We all took an oath to uphold the Constitution. Therefore I cannot
support legislation that on the one hand wholesale approves of a secret
surveillance program none of us know

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about, and takes a jab at the First Amendment on the other.

                [From the New York Times, June 28, 2006]

                        Patriotism and the Press

                      (By Eric M. Tamarkin, Esq.)

       Over the last year, The New York Times has twice published
     reports about secret antiterrorism programs being run by the
     Bush administration. Both times, critics have claimed that
     the paper was being unpatriotic or even aiding the
     terrorists. Some have even suggested that it should be
     indicted under the Espionage Act. There have been a handful
     of times in American history when the government has indeed
     tried to prosecute journalists for publishing things it
     preferred to keep quiet. None of them turned out well--from
     the Sedition Act of 1798 to the time when the government
     tried to enjoin The Times and The Washington Post from
     publishing the Pentagon Papers.
       As most of our readers know, there is a large wall between
     the news and opinion operations of this paper, and we were
     not part of the news side's debates about whether to publish
     the latest story under contention--a report about how the
     government tracks international financial transfers through a
     banking consortium known as Swift in an effort to pinpoint
     terrorists. Bill Keller, the executive editor, spoke for the
     newsroom very clearly. Our own judgments about the uproar
     that has ensued would be no different if the other papers
     that published the story, including The Los Angeles Times and
     The Wall Street Journal, had acted alone.
       The Swift story bears no resemblance to security breaches,
     like disclosure of troop locations, that would clearly
     compromise the immediate safety of specific individuals.
     Terrorist groups would have had to be fairly credulous not to
     suspect that they would be subject to scrutiny if they moved
     money around through international wire transfers. In fact, a
     United Nations group set up to monitor Al Qaeda and the
     Taliban after Sept. 11 recommended in 2002 that other
     countries should follow the United States' lead in monitoring
     suspicious transactions handled by Swift. The report is
     public and available on the United Nations Web site.
       But any argument by the government that a story is too
     dangerous to publish has to be taken seriously. There have
     been times in this paper's history when editors have decided
     not to print something they knew. In some cases, like the
     Kennedy administration's plans for the disastrous Bay of Pigs
     invasion, it seems in hindsight that the editors were over-
     cautious. (Certainly President Kennedy thought so.) Most
     recently, The Times held its reporting about the government's
     secret antiterror wiretapping program for more than a year
     while it weighed administration objections.
       Our news colleagues work under the assumption that they
     should let the people know anything important that the
     reporters learn, unless there is some grave and overriding
     reason for withholding the information. They try hard not to
     base those decisions on political calculations, like whether
     a story would help or hurt the administration. It is
     certainly unlikely that anyone who wanted to hurt the Bush
     administration politically would try to do so by writing
     about the government's extensive efforts to make it difficult
     for terrorists to wire large sums of money.
       From our side of the news-opinion wall, the Swift story
     looks like part of an alarming pattern. Ever since Sept. 11,
     the Bush administration has taken the necessity of heightened
     vigilance against terrorism and turned it into a rationale
     for an extraordinarily powerful executive branch, exempt from
     the normal checks and balances of our system of government.
     It has created powerful new tools of surveillance and
     refused, almost as a matter of principle, to use normal
     procedures that would acknowledge that either Congress or the
     courts have an oversight role.
       The Swift program, like the wiretapping program, has been
     under way for years with no restrictions except those that
     the executive branch chooses to impose on itself--or, in the
     case of Swift, that the banks themselves are able to demand.
     This seems to us very much the sort of thing the other
     branches of government, and the public, should be nervously
     aware of. We would have been very happy if Congressman Peter
     King, the Long Island Republican who has been so vocal in
     citing the Espionage Act, had been as aggressive in
     encouraging his colleagues to do the oversight job they were
     elected to do.
       The United States will soon be marking the fifth
     anniversary of the war on terror. The country is in this for
     the long haul, and the fight has to be coupled with a
     commitment to individual liberties that define America's side
     in the battle. A half-century ago, the country endured a long
     period of amorphous, global vigilance against an enemy who
     was suspected of boring from within, and history suggests
     that under those conditions, it is easy to err on the side of
     security and secrecy. The free press has a central place in
     the Constitution because it can provide information the
     public needs to make things right again. Even if it runs the
     risk of being labeled unpatriotic in the process.

  Mr. OXLEY. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 3 minutes to the
gentleman, Mr. King of New York, chairman of the Committee on Homeland
Security.
  Mr. KING of New York. Mr. Speaker, I am proud to speak in support of
this resolution.
  Mr. Speaker, this is a critical time in our Nation's history. Our
Nation is at war, and we have seen serial leaks of very important
classified top secret information. It is almost as if we are shadow
boxing. We are talking about it in a moot court-type way or a
theoretical way.
  The fact is lives are at risk. The fact is in this particular
situation, by the New York Times' own account it was a program that was
working. It was a program for which the Times has raised no questions
of illegality. It is a program under which the administration, the
Secretary of the Treasury, the two cochairmen of the 9/11 Commission
went to the New York Times and asked them, in the interest of national
security, not to release the details of this program. But they went
ahead and did it anyway. And that really, to me, casts a motive over
why, questions the motive of the New York Times in doing this.
  Back in December I strongly objected when they leaked the details of
the NSA terrorist surveillance program. At least, in that instance, the
Times raised what they thought were questions of legality. But that
didn't even exist in this current situation which, to me, goes to the
heart of an issue here, is what is the obligation of a newspaper, how
absolute is the first amendment.
  My belief in a democratic society, where there is always friction
between freedom and responsibility, and while we give extensive rein to
the first amendment, to freedom of speech, freedom of the press, no
freedom can be absolute. With freedom comes responsibility. And to me
the New York Times has clearly crossed that line of responsibility.
Those who leaked the information, yes, they should certainly be
prosecuted. To get to them is going to be very difficult to do, unless,
as the gentleman from Kansas pointed out, reporters and editors are
brought in before a grand jury and threatened with contempt if they do
not disclose the names of their sources.
  Then we will see if those who say they are so opposed to leaks will
stand up and support that. Because reporters should not be sacrosanct.
Newspapers should not be sacrosanct. It is fine to launch special
investigations and hire special prosecutors to go after any other
person in the country. But as soon as anyone focuses on the media,
focuses on the New York Times, or the L.A. Times, or the Wall Street
Journal, then panic sets in, as if special walls of protection must be
set up around them. They are not entitled to that.
  To me they have a responsibility. The New York Times has woefully
failed in its responsibility. I say the jury might still be out on the
L.A. Times and the Wall Street Journal as to whether or not, what their
motives were. Did they only follow because the New York Times went
first? I don't know. But no one should be immune from investigation
here. They should be looked into very, very carefully. We should go
after the leakers. And to me, the New York Times, is not just the
facilitator of the leakers, they are coconspirators of the leakers
because it was leaked to the Times and the Times leaked it to the
American people and to the world. And because of that, our position as
a Nation is weaker. Our people are at risk. Our people suffer and face
the further suffering and death, and that will be on the hands of the
New York Times. That blood will be on their hands.
  I urge adoption of the resolution.
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the
ranking member of the Intelligence Committee.
  Ms. HARMAN. Mr. Speaker, I rise to oppose this resolution and to
support a more responsible alternative, which, unfortunately, is not
made in order for debate.
  Mr. Speaker, there is not a single Member of this body who thinks
tracking terrorist finances is a bad idea. As the 9/11 Commission said,
``follow the money.''
  But any intelligence program, no matter how critical to national
security, must comply with law and the Constitution. The Supreme Court
ruled today in the Hamdan case that no President has unlimited powers;
no President is above the law, even in matters of national security.

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  Although this program has been operating for over 4 years, virtually
no one in this House knew about it, and there has been absolutely no
oversight. Two Members were briefed in 2002 when the program began. One
Member in 2003, two in 2005, that is a total of five. And now several
dozen more, including me, last month, only after it became clear that
the program had leaked. The only reason I and others were briefed is
the administration wanted to stay ahead of the press curve.
  Mr. Speaker, if you vote for the Oxley resolution, you are certifying
that the program is in full compliance with all applicable law. As
previous speakers have pointed out, the second finding of the
resolution states the program has been conducted in accordance with all
applicable laws, regulations, and executive orders; appropriate
safeguards and reviews have been instituted to protect individual civil
liberties, and Congress has been appropriately informed and consulted.
  How can you know this? I don't know this. No Member has been briefed
more than once. No hearings have been held and no reports issued.
  Moreover, I feel this White House will use a ``yes'' vote as an
authorization for further programs, scope unknown.
  Mr. Speaker, I won't go there. Remember the authorization to use
military force in Afghanistan? Until today, in the Hamdan decision, the
White House has been using that vote to support unlimited detention as
well as the NSA program.
  There are some legitimate issues raised by this resolution. Leaks can
get people killed. Those who leak highly sensitive intelligence
information can damage our national security. The resolution many of us
wanted to offer makes this clear. But if we prosecute newspapers and
erode the first amendment, we will end up killing our Constitution.
  In May, the House Intelligence Committee held open hearings on the
role and responsibilities of the media in national security. We
received over 25 submissions for the record, and the overwhelming
sentiment was to tread lightly on action that could chill our first
amendment freedoms.
  Mr. Speaker, as I said in that hearing, if anyone wants to live in a
society where journalists are thrown in prison, I encourage them to
move to Cuba, China or North Korea to see if they feel safer.
  This resolution asks Congress to give the administration another
blank check. It is unworthy.
  Mr. OXLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 5 minutes to the chairman of the
Intelligence Committee, the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Hoekstra).
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank my colleague from
California, the ranking member on the Intelligence Committee, for the
work that we have done together on leaks, and I think the approach that
we have taken on the committee.
  We, today, are on different sides. I rise in strong support of this
measure.
  Just a week ago, this program was one of the most highly classified
and sensitive intelligence programs of our Nation. Former 9/11
Commission Chairman Tom Kean said that the idea of a U.S. having a tap
into this type of information would have been, quote, impossible to
believe, end of quote.
  There is little dispute that the program is lawful. It is
appropriate, and it has been an effective tool to identify terrorists
and their financial networks. The Intelligence Committee has been
briefed, has been conducting oversight.
  My colleague has talked a little bit about the Members that were
briefed. But also it is important to note, and as many of us know, much
of the work that is done on any committee in the House or on the Senate
side, there is significant work that is done by staff. Nine staff
members, joint House, Senate, 9/11 inquiry staff, were briefed in May
of 2002. HPSCI consistently, in 2002, 2003, twice in 2005 and three
times in 2006, have been briefed on this program. The program has had
extensive exposure to staff and to Members.
  A week ago, this program was only about one thing, finding our
enemies and keeping Americans safe. If it had been talked about in a
secret setting or in a public setting, it would have violated the law,
the rules of the House. Today I am not only talking about it; it seems
like everyone in America may be talking about it. And the interesting
thing is that perhaps the group that is most closely watching this and
trying to understand exactly what this program may be capable of doing
are our terrorist enemies. They are now aware of what we are doing.
  Sure, we told them after 2002 we are going to track you financially,
we are going to try to intercept your communications. We are going to
try to find you in Afghanistan. We are going to try to find you
wherever you may be. Sure, they knew that. But they never had the
details of the specific tools that would be at our disposal to help us
catch them, to help us stop their funding streams and enable us to go
out and make sure that they could not attack us again successfully.
That tool has now been compromised, along with other tools.
  That is a disappointment. The newspapers bear a responsibility for
that. I find it very interesting that as we go through this process,
the New York Times has decided that on their part, they went through a
process that indicated that now it is okay to release this information.
We don't know what process that is. Some of us have had experiences
with the New York Times before where they were going, quote, unquote,
through their process. And it is a very, very questionable process that
they go through, but we don't know and they don't talk about that
process.
  They don't talk about who they talk to. They don't talk about what
information is provided to them, and they do not talk about what
information they provide to the sources or to the people that they may
be seeking information from.
  I would love the New York Times to do an expose of their program and
their review process that led them to this decision to publish this
program. I would also like to see the expose of the process that they
went through and the deliberative process and the information that they
shared when they made the decision to go public with the terrorist
surveillance program.

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  I think it would be enlightening to the American people to understand
their process as they make these very, very critical decisions that
have an impact on our national security.
  And, finally, we do need to focus on finding the people that leaked
this information, whether they are in the intelligence community,
whether they are somewhere else, in the executive branch, or whether
they are in Congress. I think we have a mutual goal and objective to
stop these leaks, to do effective oversight, and to make sure that the
intelligence community is working within the box that we have set. That
function is the responsibility of the House and the Senate. It is not a
function of America's press to go through that process in a way that is
unaccountable to us and to the American people.
  I urge my colleagues to support this resolution.
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 10 seconds.
  I note that several on the other side have said, yes, it is true al
Qaeda and the terrorists knew we were going to be tracking them
financially. They just didn't know that would involve bank records.
That seems to me wholly implausible.
  Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Maryland (Mr.
Hoyer), the minority whip.
  Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that H. Res. 900 be
included in the Record at this point in time.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the
gentleman from Maryland?
  There was no objection.

                              H. Res. 900

       Whereas the United States is currently engaged in a global
     war on terrorism to prevent future attacks against American
     civilian and military interests at home and abroad;
       Whereas intelligence programs are essential to gathering
     critical information necessary for identifying, disrupting,
     and capturing terrorists before they carry out further
     attacks;
       Whereas there is a national security imperative for
     maintaining the secrecy of our legitimate intelligence
     capabilities;
       Whereas effective intelligence depends on cooperation with
     foreign governments and individuals who trust the United
     States to protect their confidences;
       Whereas the unauthorized disclosure of sensitive
     intelligence information, including

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     the names of clandestine service officers of the Central
     Intelligence Agency, inflicts significant damage to United
     States activities in the global war on terrorism;
       Whereas following the September 11, 2001, terrorist
     attacks, Congress passed the USA PATRIOT Act, which included
     anti-terrorist financing provisions that bolster Federal
     Government and law enforcement capabilities to find and
     disrupt the financiers of terrorist organizations;
       Whereas following the September 11, 2001, terrorist
     attacks, the President directed the Federal Government to use
     all appropriate measures to identify, track, and pursue not
     only those persons who commit terrorist acts here and abroad,
     but also those who provide financial or other support for
     terrorist activity;
       Whereas consistent with this directive, the United States
     Government initiated a classified Terrorist Finance Tracking
     Program and the Secretary of the Treasury issued subpoenas to
     gather information on suspected international terrorists
     through bank transaction information;
       Whereas a few Members of Congress were notified of the
     existence of the Terrorist Finance Tracking Program, with
     most notifications taking place only after an intent to
     publish stories about the program was communicated;
       Whereas Congress has authorized the Secretary of the
     Treasury to explore the implementation of systems to review
     all cross-border wire transactions;
       Whereas the bipartisan 9/11 Commission recommended that
     ``Vigorous efforts to track terrorist financing must remain
     front and center in U.S. counterterrorism efforts''; and
       Whereas persons in positions of trust and responsibility
     granted access to highly sensitive intelligence programs
     should not violate their solemn obligations not to disclose
     classified information: Now, therefore, be it
       Resolved, That the House of Representatives--
       (1) supports efforts to identify, track, and pursue
     suspected foreign terrorists and their financial supporters
     by tracking terrorist money flows and uncovering terrorist
     networks here and abroad in accordance with existing
     applicable law, but notes that the expression of such support
     in this resolution should not be construed as providing
     additional authority for such efforts; and
       (2) expresses concern that the unauthorized disclosure of
     classified information may have made efforts to locate
     terrorists and terrorist networks, and disrupt their plans,
     more difficult.

  Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of H. Res. 900.
  Let me read H. Res. 900's opening resolution: ``Supporting
intelligence and law enforcement programs to track terrorists and
terrorist finances conducted consistent with Federal law and with
appropriate congressional consultation.''
  Everybody in this body supports tracking terrorists. Everybody.
  The gentleman who chairs the Intelligence Committee just talked about
process. Neither the New York Times nor the Los Angeles Times nor the
Wall Street Journal raise their hands and swear to defend the
Constitution and protect the laws of the United States of America. We
do that, and we have processes to determine how best to do that.
  We are at war, and we ought to be united, and I will lament the fact
that the Republican leadership continually presents resolutions
designed to divide rather than to bring us together. There was not one
second of hearing on the resolution before this body, not one. There
was no process. There was no oversight. There was no fact-finding.
There was no way to determine what, in fact, the facts are.
  We are not the newspapers. We have sworn an oath before God and to
our constituents to do our work in a way that protects and defends the
Constitution and the statutes of this land. You have not done that. You
have not brought us together. You have not said let us come together on
a resolution. Not only that, but we have an alternative. I have read
you its preamble, which accomplishes the same objective you want but
without adopting premises that none of us, not one of the 435 of us,
know that those premises are accurate.
  I tell my friend, the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Oxley), he has not had
one minute of hearings in his committee on this resolution, not one.
  Is that responsible? Is that the way the people of the United States
want us to carry out important functions of government when we are at
war? I think not. I think they expect more of us. We do not honor this
institution or its processes or our Constitution by the actions we take
today on this floor.
  I will oppose this resolution, but I will support H.R. 900, which
says very clearly and emphatically that we want to determine what
terrorists are doing. We want to intercept the information from
financial institutions that further a conspiracy to create terror and
injury and damage to our country and to our people. But we should have
done it, I tell the chairman, in a collegial way, in a cooperative way,
in a partnership against terrorism, not in a partisan effort to divide
and to make political points.
  Mr. OXLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from
Arizona (Mr. Hayworth).
  (Mr. HAYWORTH asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
  Mr. HAYWORTH. Mr. Speaker, when your house is on fire, do you hold a
hearing? When you need emergency treatment, do you take time for a
hearing?
  I rise in support of this resolution because at times we need not be
prisoners of process but instead champions of policy.
  What is past is prologue. The year 1944, early in that year, General
Dwight David Eisenhower steps before the war correspondents and says,
with reference to D Day, Fellows, I want you to know it is going to be
in early June.
  The war correspondents to a man stopped writing. One asks, General,
why did you tell us?
  And Ike responds, Because you are good Americans and I know you won't
endanger the lives of other Americans.
  The question before this House is just that stark and just that
simple. In wartime, despite partisan differences, will we stand
together knowing that information is sensitive in wartime and some
information should remain secret to protect the American people? That
is all this resolution says, that we abhor the leaks and that they must
stop and together we must win this effort. Our future depends on it.
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 10 seconds.
  If that was all the resolution had said, we wouldn't be here. It also
says that the Bush administration has carried this out in a perfect
fashion. And yet you can have hearings during a war. Harry Truman
showed how to do that and made for himself a great reputation and
helped the war effort.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield for the purpose of making a unanimous consent
request to the gentlewoman from Texas (Ms. Jackson-Lee).
  (Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas asked and was given permission to revise
and extend her remarks.)
  Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the Frank
amendment because I believe I can embrace security and freedom and
liberty.
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to
the dean of the House, who is a man of great experience in how to
handle these conflicting issues, the gentleman from Michigan (Mr.
Dingell).
  (Mr. DINGELL asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
  Mr. DINGELL. Mr. Speaker, there is no one in this Chamber or in this
body that is not a loyal American and does not want to see to it that
our troops, our Nation, and our security is protected. But this is not
the way to do it.
  This resolution is conceived in sin, and it is brought forward to us
without an opportunity to consider it or discuss it properly. No
hearings, no opportunity to amend, not adequate discussion, not an
opportunity for a motion to recommit. All done in a closed fashion,
sprung on this body with no time to consider. The end result: The
opinion has to be that this is a clear, bald-faced attempt to strangle
criticism of this administration. This is an attempt to silence the
press.
  I would quote to you what Tom Jefferson had to say some years ago:
``I am for freedom of the press and against all violations of the
Constitution to silence by force and not by reason the complaints or
criticisms, just or unjust, of our citizens against the conduct of
their agents.''
  Now, beyond that, Herbert Hoover: ``Absolute freedom of the press to
discuss public questions is a cornerstone of American liberty.''
  That is what we are talking about here, the first 10 amendments, the
Bill of Rights of the Constitution.
  This administration is perhaps the most deceitful and dishonest that
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in this body. They either do not know what they are talking about or
they deliberately mislead. They told us about the weapons of mass
destruction in Iraq. They told us about Iraqi connection to al Qaeda.
They asked us to believe that the giving of no-bid contracts to
Halliburton, which wastes billions of dollars, are in the public
interest. They tell us that the insurgency is in its last throes. They
tell us that they are protecting our civil liberties while they are
tapping our phones and spying in our libraries and looking into our
bank accounts. They tell us to trust them on everything because they
are protecting our civil liberties.
  Well, I don't think I can trust this administration to protect my
civil liberties or those of the people that I serve. And I certainly
don't believe that the majority has shown that we can trust them
because they are not having a fair or decent debate on this. They are
bringing to the floor a bill under a gag rule to gag the press, to
intimidate the press, and to see to it that the one agency in this
country that is telling the people the truth about what is going on
over in Iraq and elsewhere and the functions of this administration is
denied the opportunity to come forward and to tell the truth so that
the people may know of the follies and abuses of this administration.
  Mr. Speaker, I rise to denounce this resolution that we have before
us today. I denounce it because, it is not only inaccurate--and
inaccuracies have no place in carefully considered legislation--but
also because I believe that it is a pernicious attack on the very
foundation of a free society.
  It is impossible to have a democracy without a free vibrant press,
the claims of this Administration not withstanding.
  It is the press that keeps our government transparent, and policy
makers honest.
  It is the press that informs the public, and we should have nothing
to fear from an enlightened population.
  In fact, what we should fear is a public that takes its cues from
politicians rather than newspapers.
  Over two-hundred years ago Thomas Jefferson said, ``I am for freedom
of the press, and against all violations of the Constitution to silence
by force and not by reason the complaints or criticisms, just or
unjust, of our citizens against the conduct of their agents:''
  Almost a century ago Walter Lipman wrote, ``A free press is not a
privilege, but an organic necessity in a great society'' and the
epitome of Republican presidents, Herbert Hoover, said. ``Absolute
freedom of the press to discuss public questions is a foundation stone
of American liberty;''
  But this Congress and this President are cut from a whole different
cloth. The press, and by extension the people, are things to be feared.
They believe the press should be dismissed, and the public should be
ignored.
  This Administration seems to think that any oversight is bad
oversight, and the Congress willingly agrees. In fact, the only thing
that has kept the public as woefully informed as they are has been the
press.
  For the past five and a half years, the President and his deputies
have told the American people ``Trust us.''
  Trust us on the existence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
  Trust us on an Iraqi connection to Al Qeda.
  Trust us on gigantic no bid contracts to Haliburton which wastes
billions of dollars of the taxpayers money.
  Trust us on mission accomplished.
  Trust us on the insurgency being in its last throes.
  Trust us that civil liberties are being protected as we pursue
terrorists.
  Trust us that we had no idea New Orleans levies could be breached.
  Trust us that everything is legal and your civil liberties are
protected.
  Well, Mr. Speaker, I do not want to trust anymore. I cannot trust the
claims of this Administration anymore, and the only people that have
even attempted to keep them honest, and to inform the American people,
is the press.
  An uncomfortable truth was revealed in the New York Times, and a
needless detail was included in a Washington Times story in 1998 that
enabled Osama bin Laden to escape capture. Yet these are the prices we
pay for a free press.
  No one ever said that freedom was easy, or neat, or simple to manage.
Rather it is hard, it complicates policy, and makes governing messy.
  But it also works and it has made us a model to be emulated and to be
envied throughout the world--and I would have it no other way.
  I urge my colleagues to voted on the resolution.
  Mr. OXLEY. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the
gentleman from Alabama (Mr. Davis), a member of the Committee on
Financial Services, one of those kept in the dark on this.
  Mr. DAVIS of Alabama. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for
yielding.
  I rise in support of your resolution that the House will not get to
vote on; and I have to begin by pointing out some of the absurdities
put before the House tonight, Mr. Frank.
  On one hand, we hear that the terrorists are cunning and brilliant
and threaten every liberty that we have. On the other hand, on the next
hand, they are too dense to know we are monitoring their bank
transactions.
  On one hand, we decry, with every piece of passion and indignation we
have, the New York Times. We dust off the reputation of the deputy
chief of staff who tried to leak classified information to them and put
him in charge of the fall campaign strategy.
  So I begin with the absurdities, but I end with a more profound
point. If you vote for this resolution, you are voting for two simple
statements: The first statement is to one newspaper and to one
executive branch. This is an admonition by the Congress to prosecute an
American newspaper. I do not know that we have done that in all the
years that we have been here.
  And then there is the second statement to every newspaper in the
United States of America and every magazine, to everyone who carries a
journalist's pen that the next time you think about piercing the veil
of secrecy, be afraid, be very afraid, because the hammer may fall on
you.
  And I do not trust that, Mr. Frank, for a very simple reason. These
checks and balances have swung far too widely in favor of the
Executive. The President, I respect all of his power and all of his
authority, but he is not the sole arbiter of what is right and what is
wrong. And because we haven't performed our oversight role, we have
left him with this role of being the arbiter of what is classified, of
what is wise, and what is necessary to protect this country.
  So I end with this trade-off: We would be very happy to give up some
of the freedom of the fourth estate if this branch of government, the
legislative, would do its task of oversight. But because we are not
doing our task and we see instances of it time after time, yes, we need
a fourth estate that is free. We need a fourth estate that is not
chilled.
  Mr. OXLEY. Mr. Speaker, I will take a second to correct the gentleman
from Alabama. There is not one word in this resolution that calls for
prosecution of anything other than leakers. Not the media.
  Mr. DAVIS of Alabama. That is the effect, Mr. Oxley. It is the effect
of it.
  Mr. OXLEY. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 10 seconds.
  There is a very clear notice in the Republican resolution, and I call
it that simply because that is how they decided it should be. They
drafted it and didn't even show it to us until it was printed. They
asked for no input. But it very clearly references the current criminal
statute that is there, and I do not think that was for no reason.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Massachusetts
(Mr. Markey).
  Mr. MARKEY. Mr. Speaker, there is no American, Democrat or
Republican, who does not want to pursue, capture and, if necessary,
kill any al Qaeda who threatens our country. And what is happening here
tonight is an attempt to shoot the messenger, which is the New York
Times and the Wall Street Journal and the L.A. Times, that there may be
a program that is being conducted by this administration which may not
be constitutional. It may not be proper oversight.

                              {time}  1815

  Now, we are told that Booz-Allen, an accounting firm, is checking for
us. But we did not subcontract constitutional protections to an
accounting firm. Enron hired Arthur Andersen; we know what happened to
their investors. We are supposed to be the checks along with the
Federal courts.
  Now, they say that you don't have to worry, we already know what's
going on. Well, the resolution says that the program only reviews
information as

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part of specific terrorism investigations and based on intelligence
that leads to targeted searches. How do we know that?
  The resolution says that the program is rooted in sound legal
authority based on executive orders and statutory mandates. How do we
know that?
  The resolution says that the program consists of the appropriate and
limited use of transaction information while maintaining respect for
individual privacy. How do we know that?
  This resolution says that the program has rigorous safeguards and
protocols to protect privacy. How do we know that?
  There have been no hearings. There has been no oversight. There have
been no congressional investigations into this bank record surveillance
program. Booz-Allen knows more about this program than the Members of
the United States Congress and Federal judiciary. How do we know?
  Instead, they shoot the messenger, the press of our country, for
revealing that they trust an auditing firm more than the Federal
judiciary.
  Vote ``no.''
  There is no question that our country must work acitvely and
aggressively to put Al Qaeda out of business.
  There is no debate abut this point--terrorists are planning to strike
our country again, and we must not waiver in our efforts to prevent
another attack.
  But while we work to destroy Al Qaeda, we must not debase our
Constitution.
  While we track terrorists around the globe, we must not trample on
the very principles that are the foundation of our democracy.
  The Bill of Rights did not come with an expiration date.
  Taking the fight to the terrorists and abiding by our constitutional
requirements are not mutually exclusive responsibilities.
  Mr. Speaker, I agree with many of the provisions in this resolution:
  We must choke off funds used by terrorists to fund their activities;
We must use our intelligence capabilities to detect and disrupt
terrorist plots before they occur; We must work with our allies in the
global war on terror.
  But I cannot support a resolution that falsely claims that the
Congress was appropriately consulted on this program, and appropriate
oversight of the program was conducted. That is simply not true.
  This Resolution is a perfect example of why the American people are
getting fed up with the Republican Rubber Stamp Congress.
  Just last Friday, the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and
the Los Angeles Times reported on the existence of a secret Bush
administration program to monitor banking transactions. These reports
come just six months after earlier revelations about the existence of a
program to monitor telephone call records. The reports themselves
indicate that some of the Government officials familiar with the
program had concerns with the scope and breadth of the bank record
surveillance program. Congress was not fully notified about the
program. No federal court approved the subpoenas that were sent to the
international consortium called ``SWIFT'' that had these bank records.
  So, what is the reaction of this Congress to these revelations?
  Are we going to conduct hearings to evaluate this program?
  Is there going to be any oversight to determine whether or not it
fully complies with all Constitutional and legal requirements?
  No, what we're going to do is take up this resolution and
retroactively bless a program that we weren't told about.
  What we're going to do is shoot the messenger--the news media--for
informing this House and the American people that such a surveillance
program existed.

  The Bush administration has claimed that tapping bank records without
a court order is legal. Perhaps it is--but shouldn't we conduct some
oversight to find out?
  But, the Bush administration also argued that waterboarding and other
cruel interrogation techniques were fully legal. Once Congress found
out about those techniques, it passed the McCain amendment to make it
clear that such techniques were not legal.
  The administration argued that trying prisoners at Guantamo Bay
before military tribunals and denying them the protections of the
Geneva Convention was also legal, but the Supreme Court just ruled
earlier today that it was not.
  Now the Bush administration argues that the secret bank records
program is entirely legal. Perhaps it is. But, perhaps it is not based
on the Bush administration record of expansive legal interpretations of
executive authority, I don't think that this Congress should just take
the administration's word for it. At minimum, we should be asking
questions. We should be conducting some real oversight into this
program to find out. We should be holding hearings to examine this
program and to determine whether it fully complies with the laws--if
necessary, in closed executive session.
  The resolution before us today makes findings and reaches conclusions
for which there is not yet evidence.
  This resolution finds that the program ``only reviews information as
part of specific terrorism investigations and based on intelligence
that leads to targeted searches.'' How do we know that?
  This resolution finds that the program ``is rooted in sound legal
authority based on executive orders and statutory mandates.'' How do we
know that?
  This resolution says that the program ``consists of the appropriate
and limited use of transaction information while maintaining respect
for individual privacy.'' How do we know that?
  This resolution says the program ``has rigorous safeguards and
protocols to protect privacy.'' How do we know that?
  This resolution says that this secret bank record program ``has been
conducted in accordance with all applicable laws, regulations, and
executive orders, that appropriate safeguards and reviews have been
instituted to protect individual civil liberties.'' How do we know
that?
  There have been no hearings. There has been no oversight. There has
been no Congressional investigation into this bank record surveillance
program.
  Instead of Congressional oversight, or approval by a Federal Judge,
this program has relied on a consulting firm hired by the
administration--Booz-Allen--as the only oversight mechanism to evaluate
the legality of the financial surveillance program. The Bush
administration should have subjected it to proper oversight by Congress
and the courts. But it chose not to do so.
  There is no factual or evidentiary basis for the findings and
conclusions reached in this resolution, other than the claims issued by
the Bush administration. Before this body goes on record in support of
those claims, we have an obligation and a duty to actually hold the
hearings and conduct the oversight needed to assure ourselves that the
Constitutional rights and the privacy rights of the American people
have been appropriately respected.
  We should not be passing this resolution today, before we have those
answers. That is the gentleman of Massachusetts (Mr. Frank) sought to
offer a substitute amendment that would have represented a more
appropriate response. The Frank substitute would have deleted the
findings and conclusions in the resolution for which there is as yet
not sufficient evidence. It would have supported efforts to identify,
track and pursue suspected terrorist and to track their money flows in
accordance with existing law, and it would have refrained from
inappropriately charging the news media with harming our national
security. But the rubber stamp Republican majority that controls this
Congress refused to make this amendment in order. They're afraid of a
real debate on real alternatives.
  I urge rejection of this resolution. This body should be able to vote
and debate on real alternatives to rubber-stamping whatever position
the Bush administration takes.
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to
the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Emanuel).
  Mr. EMANUEL. I find it interesting that when the 9/11 Commission gave
this Congress 12 Ds, five Fs, and three incompletes for protecting
America, nobody thought it was dangerous to America's national security
or for protecting our citizens. Nobody wanted to get the 9/11
Commission recommendations down here for a vote.
  The chairman of the Intelligence Committee said it is the Congress
who will conduct oversight. When we were told this was a quick war, not
a long one and it turned into a long war, where was the oversight?
  When we were told that the war in Iraq was going to be conventional
and became a guerrilla war, where was the oversight?
  When we were told we were going to be greeted as liberators and we
became occupiers, where was the oversight?
  When we were told that we had enough troops and it has been clear
that we needed more, twice as many, where was the oversight?
  At every chance there was for the Congress to exercise its oversight,
this Congress walked away from it.
  On the war on terror, Democrats have given the President everything
he wanted. The Republican Congress has denied the President the one
thing he needed, oversight. It is in this area that oversight is most
important. Every Democrat, every Republican, every Independent, every
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a role for the United States Congress in oversight. The one institution
that is providing some accountability is a free press, and one element
of it is singled out for isolation in an attempt to intimidate it.
  The Congress, as my Congressman said from Alabama, if the Congress
was acting in its role of oversight, you would not have to come up with
a gimmick to attack the one entity, the free press, that is also doing
its function. I find it almost ironic at this point that we have a
political strategy being designed by somebody and we all know what is
happening here. It is a political strategy to divert people's attention
from the real problems facing this country, one of which is the role of
the Congress to protect the American people. Its job is oversight and
accountability, and it has abdicated that for 2 years.
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Mr. Speaker, I now yield 2 minutes to a
senior member of the Financial Services Committee and one of the
leaders on the whole question of how we should be dealing with our
current problem, the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Waters).
  Ms. WATERS. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the Frank resolution,
900, which was not made in order by the Rules Committee.
  As many of you know, the Financial Services chairman, Mr. Oxley,
introduced House Resolution 895. The Oxley resolution is well-intended,
but I cannot support it. It condemns the media for disclosing
information related to the Terrorist Finance Tracking Program. The
resolution is misleading. It contains whereas clauses characterizing
Congress' role in overseeing the program. There is no oversight to this
terrorist tracking program.
  Mr. Speaker and Members, this is America and Americans ought to be
concerned about what is going on in this government at this time. As a
matter of fact, I think this government is spinning out of control. The
government is violating the United States Constitution and Federal law
in the name of fighting terrorism. Your President truly believes he can
disregard the Constitution, create new laws and executive orders and
whatever he does, he says, is constitutional because he is the
President.
  Keeping with this imperial Presidency attitude, the Republicans have
the audacity to try and intimidate the press, using the same tired old
Karl Rove tactics that have become common to this administration:
intimidation, threats. They have accused us of cutting and running on
the Iraqi war, questioning Members' patriotism, accusing Democrats of
being soft on terrorism, and now the press. If the New York Times, The
Washington Post and the Washington Times or any other newspaper back
off its responsibility to report the news, no matter how unpopular,
they may as well close up shop and quit the news business.
  This resolution as introduced by Mr. Oxley, that again is misleading,
condemning the media, must be rejected. This is not China, Vietnam,
Cuba, Sudan, Zimbabwe or Saudi Arabia. The free press is central to a
democracy. We are seeing the PATRIOT Act, the NSA spying, the
telecommunications companies giving up our private information. Enough
is enough. We must stop with this resolution.
  Mr. OXLEY. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased now to yield 2 minutes to the
gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Renzi), the only member of the Financial
Services Committee and the Intelligence Committee.
  Mr. RENZI. I thank the gentleman for his leadership.
  The law is a little bit of a sticky wicket. There are a lot of claims
being made on the other side of no oversight and that the President
hasn't properly informed the Congress. Nancy Pelosi was properly
informed; the ranking member of the Intelligence Committee, properly
informed. Harry Reid, properly informed.
  What does the law say? The law says the President shall keep the
intelligence committees informed. The implementation clause, and I
would recommend it to the gentleman from Massachusetts, the President
and the congressional intelligence committees together shall establish
these procedures. Who established them? Harry Truman, 1947. Who
established the Gang of Eight and used it more than any other
President? Jimmy Carter prior to September 11.
  The law and history is a sticky wicket.
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Will the gentleman yield?
  Mr. RENZI. No, I won't yield. I was only given a few seconds.
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. The gentleman made it a point to mention
me and will not let me respond.
  Mr. RENZI. It's my time. I only get a few seconds.
  The New York Times and the business of leaking is beginning to have a
cumulative effect. By their own account, they have leaked the
government's most closely regarded secrets. They said that it has only
led to a few potential terrorists.
  Let me close with this: a few potential terrorists did damage to this
country on September 11. A few terrorists can help to take down and
destroy this Nation and wound this Nation. They are not the ultimate
arbitrators of how you declassify information. We all agree on that.
They can't hold themselves above the law. They have got to allow and
work with us.
  This is the second time we have passed a resolution asking the media
to work with us. I feel, my opinion, that those in the administration,
this administration, those in government agencies, those in the media
and those in both the Democratic and Republican Party who leak
information should be prosecuted. We have got to put an end to this
charade. We have got to do it together.
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. I yield myself 10 seconds to point out
that, yes, it's true, Ms. Pelosi was briefed. In 2002, at the beginning
of the program. She is not a fortune teller.
  Mr. RENZI. Whoa.
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Regular order. I ask the gentleman to be
seated. I asked the gentleman when he mentioned me to yield. He
declined to do so. For him now to interrupt me without even asking for
a yield is wholly outside the rules of the House, and I ask he be
instructed in them.
  Mr. RENZI. Will the gentleman yield to correct a fact?
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. I will yield to the gentleman exactly as
he yielded to me. No.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Arizona will suspend. The
gentleman from Arizona, please suspend. Please take a seat.
  Mr. RENZI. I will be happy to suspend, sir.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Massachusetts may
proceed.
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. The gentlewoman from California (Ms.
Pelosi) was briefed at the outset. The other gentlewoman from
California, the ranking member of the committee, was briefed, as I was
offered a briefing, after it was about to be made public.
  I now yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman from New York, a member of
our committee.
  Mrs. MALONEY. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the Frank resolution
that we are not permitted to vote on. All of us support legal efforts
to track terrorist financing. But what we have before us is a
nonbinding resolution that is more about stirring the Republican
political base and silencing the press than protecting our country.
  The resolution makes declarations about actions that have yet to be
confirmed without conducting any oversight and without all the facts.
The Republican Party has become masters of cut and run, cutting from
the issues so that they can run for reelection in November.
  This resolution is a diversion. If it was really about condemning
leaks of classified information, it would also mention Valerie Plame,
Karl Rove and Scooter Libby. And as the Member of Congress representing
the district that suffered the greatest loss of life on 9/11, I believe
that combating terrorism is a serious, bipartisan issue, not a one-
sided, last-minute, take-it-or-leave-it, Republican-only, political
campaign stunt.
  Mr. OXLEY. Mr. Speaker, I believe I have the right to close, and I
reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. May I ask, the gentleman has only one
more speaker?
  Mr. OXLEY. Me.
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Me, too.

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  How much time do I have remaining, Mr. Speaker?
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. 3\1/2\ minutes.
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 3\1/2\
minutes.
  I reiterate, the resolution that we have, very unfortunately, not
been allowed to offer even as a recommit, because democracy abroad has
a much greater appeal to my colleagues than democracy at home. Indeed,
apparently, to the Republican Party in the House, democracy is a great
spectator sport. They would like to see it in Afghanistan, they would
like to see it in Iraq, but they don't want to practice it at home.
It's too hard. Members might be able to make a fair choice.
  Here is what our resolution says: we are for tracking the terrorists
financially. We do not think there should be leaks. The biggest single
difference is that we do not subscribe to their automatic praise that
says that the White House, the administration, has done everything
right. That is the biggest difference.
  Now, no one really can say that. The chairman of the Intelligence
Committee said the staff was briefed, some of the staff. Well, let's
have a mock Congress, bring the staff in here, and let them vote on it.
But those of you who weren't in the briefing and haven't talked to the
staff, almost everybody, are not entitled to vote to say things that
aren't true.
  Let me talk about one of the things that I am unsure about. I don't
want the terrorists tipped off and if they are being tipped off, we
need to know about it. But we don't know that yet. The gentleman from
Alabama earlier, Mr. Bachus; the chairman of the intelligence committee
and others have said, well, yes, it's true that the terrorists learned
from Bush administration statements that we were tracking their
financial activities. But apparently they didn't know that that
involved banks. Did they think we were going through their pockets? How
can you acknowledge that people knew that they were being tracked
financially but, oh, no, it didn't involve bank records.
  Now, I don't know what the answer is. But neither do those who are
ready to vote to say this caused that problem. I remind the Members,
there is a factual statement here that says, it doesn't mention the
Washington Times because you want to be nice to them, but it says that
the Washington Times in 1998 made a disclosure that made it hard to
find Osama bin Laden. That may well not be true. You are going to vote
them this. There is this automaticity to your behavior. You are being
asked to vote for things that I know most Members over there and over
here can't say.
  We are not asking you to vote the opposite. We are not saying the
program had legal problems. We are not saying it was conducted badly.
We are saying, look, and we could have this, we could have 430 votes to
say, yes, it's a good thing to track the terrorists and it's a bad
thing to leak. Those statements of policy could be made, but they
wouldn't give any political advantage. To go beyond that and to turn
this into a Bush commercial, to say without any basis that we know that
they haven't violated their civil liberty, they haven't done privacy,
let me say this. If that is in fact the case, if they have run this
program as competently, as efficiently, and with as much respect for
individual liberties as you say, then this resolution deserves more
attention. Because that is a first. If they really have managed to
break the record they have had before, wonderful. But you are taking it
as they said on faith.
  So let me close by saying once again what I have said in previous
situations. We have told the Shiia in Iraq, please show some
willingness to work with the minority.

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  We have asked in Afghanistan that people work together. We have said,
do not be abusive of your majority power. Try to work together. And
then the majority here engages in the most outrageous abuse of power
you can think of.
  I hope that all those watching will remember one important thing, do
not try this at home.
  Mr. OXLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of our time.
  Mr. Speaker, this has been a lively debate. I just want to state some
facts. We are at war. All of the decisions, virtually all of the
decisions that have been made since 9/11 have been made in this
Congress, the administration, with the express purpose of protecting
the American people.
  The PATRIOT Act, actions that were urged by the New York Times and
other media, were undertaken expressly to protect the American people.
And the fact that we have not had a major attack in this country is I
think fairly good news and indicates to everybody that the system and
what we have done is working.
  We all served with Lee Hamilton. He was a great Member, well
respected on both sides of the aisle. Lee Hamilton was the co-chairman,
along with Governor Kean, of the 9/11 Commission. They testified before
numerous committees. They wrote an excellent report.
  And that report was critical looking backward on things that we had
not done to better protect ourselves. We did not connect the dots. We
had a wall between the CIA and the FBI. There were things that could
have been done better.
  And this was all constructive criticism. And then those gentlemen
went out, not only did they testify, but they spoke in public. And they
are still very active in that operation.
  Why do you think, why do you think that Lee Hamilton asked the New
York Times to resist publishing that information? Do you not think that
he thought that our Nation was at risk and that that kind of
information out in the public would notify al Qaeda and our enemies
that we were in grave danger?
  Why would somebody with the reputation of a Lee Hamilton or a
Governor Kean make that extraordinary effort to try to keep a news
organization from publishing that information? That is what this
argument is all about. That is what this resolution is all about. This
is serious business. This is not politics. This is about the safety of
our children and our country.
  And we talk about politics all of the time. I am frankly
disappointed. Vote for this resolution and let us get on with the
business at hand.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to House Resolution 896, the
resolution is considered read and the previous question is ordered on
the resolution and on the preamble.


                         Parliamentary Inquiry

  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Parliamentary inquiry, Mr. Speaker. Is a
motion to recommit in order at this time?
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman is correct.
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Further parliamentary inquiry. Since we
are in the whole House, would it be in order, by unanimous consent, to
modify the rule so that the motion to recommit could become a motion
with instructions, including the resolution we have alluded to today?
Would that be in order to ask for a unanimous consent request?
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. By unanimous consent, the House could amend
its previous order to admit a motion to recommit with instructions.
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Mr. Speaker, I then ask unanimous consent
that our motion to recommit be made a recommit with instructions so our
resolution, supported by the overwhelming majority of the Democratic
Caucus, could receive a vote on the floor of the House.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the
gentleman from Massachusetts?
  Mr. OXLEY. Mr. Speaker, I object.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Objection is heard. The gentleman from
Massachusetts?
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Mr. Speaker, I mourn democracy.
  Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to H.
Res. 895, the Oxley resolution. I support efforts to identify, track,
and pursue suspected foreign terrorists and their financial supporters
by tracking terrorist money flows and uncovering terrorist networks.
But it does not serve the nation well to condemn the media for
performing its watchdog function even in a time of war. Indeed, it is
especially important during wartime that the media be even more
vigilant and aggressive in informing the public. I do not support the
resolution because it encourages the media to become lapdogs who see
their role as cheerleaders for the Administration rather than as

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watchdogs who exist to safeguard the public interest.
  During the 1790s under the Alien and Sedition Acts, and then again
during the Civil War and World War I, the government prosecuted
journalists. Today, we are again hearing government officials calling
for prosecution of journalists who report on the conduct of the global
war on terrorism and the war in Iraq and disclose to the American
public information which the Administration would rather the American
people not know. Some even accuse journalists who do so of treason.
  But what these self-styled media critics fail to understand is that
the American people have a need for a free press to check the excesses
of government, and never more so than today.
  Mr. Speaker, the resolution declares, without any proof or evidence,
that the House of Representatives ``finds that the Program has been
conducted in accordance with all applicable laws, that appropriate
safeguards and reviews have been instituted to protect civil liberties,
and that Congress has been appropriately informed and consulted and
will continue Program oversight.''
  This is a major flaw in the resolution. Affirming as fact claims that
are not nothing more than unsupported assertions is not persuasive or
in the best interest of the Congress and the country. Rather, it is
merely argument by ipse dixit. Today the Supreme Court ruled that the
Administration overstepped its bounds regarding Guantanamo Bay
detainees. Who's to say that the Administration has not overstepped
boundaries in the area of domestic spying as well? The fact is we
simply do not know. We do not know because this Republican-led Congress
has been derelict in its Constitutional duty of oversight.
  Mr. Speaker, as a senior member of the Homeland Security Committee, I
support efforts to identify and track down terrorists and oppose the
leaking of classified information. But I will not play politics with
this Nation's security. Nor will I support the majority's trampling on
liberty and freedom of the press.
  Most disconcerting is the chilling effect this ill-conceived
resolution will have on the press. In the words of one of our
distinguished founding fathers, George Mason, `The freedom of the press
is one of the greatest bulwarks of liberty, and can never be restrained
but by despotic governments.'
  I oppose the resolution and urge its defeat.
  Mr. STARK. Mr. Speaker, I reject all the ridiculous premises of the
resolution: The premise that terrorists would have had no clue that
international wire transfers would be subject to monitoring until they
read about it in the New York Times; the premise that the media should
conceal information leaked by responsible officials who are concerned
about the runaway police-state tactics of the Bush Administration; and,
the premise that by telling a select few Congressional leaders, the
Bush Administration can do whatever it wants, regardless of the lack of
constitutional or statutory authority.
  When concerns were expressed about the far-reaching powers of the
Patriot Act, President Bush said any wiretap would require a court
order. He lied. When the National Security Agency's (NSA) warrantless
wiretapping program was revealed, he said we should trust him to use
the program judiciously. When we learned that the NSA also collects
millions of domestic telephone records, the President said it wasn't
what it seemed. Now, we add financial records to the list, and his only
response is to criticize the messenger. What will it take for the do-
nothing Republican Congress to start standing up for the Constitution,
or at least the prerogatives of the Legislative Branch?
  If this Congress spent half as much time doing oversight as it did
criticizing those who dare question their government, we wouldn't have
to find out what our government is doing on the front page of the New
York Times. But given that no lie, no unlawful program, no petulant
signing statement is too much for the Bush toadies, I salute the Times
and other media outlets for their occasional bravery and for
maintaining some semblance of accountability in government.
  Mr. SHERMAN. Mr. Speaker, I am proud to cosponsor H. Res. 900,
offered by Ranking Member Barney Frank, which provides that the House
of Representatives supports efforts to track terrorist financing and
their financial supporters by tracking terrorist money flows and by
uncovering terrorist networks, both here and abroad, in accordance with
existing applicable law.
  The Frank resolution also expresses concerns that unauthorized
disclosure of classified information may have made efforts to locate
terrorists and terrorist networks and to disrupt their plans more
difficult. It does not include controversial whereas clauses or
findings that cannot be verified. The Rules Committee should have
allowed this resolution to come before the House for a vote.
  I am unable to sponsor H. Res. 895, which Financial Services
Committee Chairman Michael G. Oxley introduced yesterday afternoon,
because his resolution contains a number of statements that simply
cannot be factually confirmed at this time. There has been no fact
finding, no oversight, no hearings whatsoever by any Committee of the
House to even try to establish whether or not the partisan findings
contained in H. Res. 895 are accurate.
  The only way that these issues can be developed properly is through
hearings, classified hearings where required, before the committees of
jurisdiction, the House Financial Services Committee and/or the House
Intelligence Committee. Matters that are highly classified can be dealt
with by the Intelligence Committee.
  Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, had it been my decision, I would not have
released a report on the Terrorist Finance Tracking Program, and I co-
sponsored H. Res. 900 to register my disapproval. For no good reason,
H. Res. 900 was not made in order as a substitute amendment.
  I have reluctantly decided not to vote for H. Res. 895 for the
following reasons. H.R. 895 was written exclusively by Republicans,
with no Democratic input, no committee hearings, and no committee mark-
up. The resolution was rushed to the floor shortly after being filed
under a rule that prohibits amendments of any kind, for one hour's
debate, and then a vote up or down. I agree with much of the
resolution. I wholeheartedly support ``efforts to identify, track, and
pursue suspected foreign terrorists and their financial supporters by
tracking money flows and by uncovering terrorists networks here and
abroad.''
  I have not been briefed on the program, however, and I am no position
to find ``that the Terrorist Finance Tracking Program has been
conducted in accordance with applicable laws, regulations and Executive
Orders, and that appropriate safeguards and reviews have been
instituted to protect individual civil liberties, and that Congress has
been appropriately informed and consulted for the duration of the
Program and will continue its oversight of the Program.'' I hope that
is the case, but I have no basis on which to make such a judgment, and
I do not think that Members of Congress should hold out such a
conclusion if we cannot support it.
  Mr. HOLT. Mr. Speaker, I rise today in opposition to this partisan
and ill-considered resolution. This resolution will do absolutely
nothing to stop leaks. It's just another cheap, hypocritical political
stunt.
  My colleagues should know that only last month, the House Permanent
Select Committee on Intelligence held an open hearing on the very issue
of the media's role in leaks. What many of us observed at that hearing
is that there are at least two contributing factors to leaks to the
media. One of those is the use of the classification system to conceal
improper, even potentially criminal, conduct by executive branch
officials.
  One example of this was the original report by General Taguba on the
Abu Ghraib abuse investigation. It was originally classified SECRET/
NOFORN but ultimately declassified in its entirety when the images of
prisoner abuse appeared in the media. To the best of my knowledge, the
House Intelligence Committee has never investigated why that report--
which detailed criminal behavior by American military personnel--was
classified in the first place. What I do know is that we in the
Congress must never allow the classification system to be used to
conceal criminal conduct--which brings me to the second factor
contributing to leaks of classified information to the media: the
refusal of this Congress to take its oversight responsibilities
seriously.
  As I've said before, this Congress doesn't exactly put out a welcome
mat for those executive branch employees who seek to report misconduct
or illegal activity by their agencies. If you don't believe me, just
look at the status of the only bill before Congress right now that
would actually offer some modest protections for national security
whistleblowers.
  H.R. 1317, Federal Employee Protection of Disclosures Act, was
offered by my colleague, the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Platt),
last year. This bill would clarify which disclosures of information are
protected from prohibited personnel practices, and require that
nondisclosure policies, forms, and agreements conform to certain
disclosure protections. Last September, this bipartisan bill was
reported favorably by the House Government Reform committee on a vote
of 34-1, yet the Rules committee has refused to allow this bill to come
to the floor for a vote on at least three occasions.
  This resolution shoots the messenger. A more useful approach would
address the problems of overclassification, the lack of oversight, and
whistleblower protections. If you want to stop leaks, if you want to
ensure that classified information doesn't appear in the press, then
give executive branch employees who have concerns about their agency's
conduct a place to go with their concerns without fear of retaliation
so that we can do our job: oversight of the executive branch. I urge my
colleagues to vote no on this resolution.

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  Mr. PAUL. Mr. Speaker, I am not sure that the federal government's
program examine records of international financial transactions
collected by the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial
Telecommunications (SWIFT) is worth all the sound and fury that has
surrounded the program since its existence was revealed last week. For
one thing, this program appears to threaten civil liberties less than
the already widely known ``Know Your Customer'' program or the
requirement that American financial institutions file suspicious
activity reports whenever a transaction's value exceeds $10,000.
However, the program's defenders should consider the likelihood that
having federal bureaucrats wade through mountains of SWIFT-generated
data will prove as ineffective in protecting the American people as
other government programs that rely on sifting through mountains of
financial data in hopes of identifying ``suspicious transactions.''
  According to investigative journalist James Bovard, writing in the
Baltimore Sun on June 28, ``[a] U.N. report on terrorist financing
released in May 2002 noted that a `suspicious transaction report' had
been filed with the U.S. government over a $69,985 wire transfer that
Mohamed Atta, leader of the hijackers, received from the United Arab
Emirates. The report noted that `this particular transaction was not
noticed quickly enough because the report was just one of a very large
number and was not distinguishable from those related to other
financial crimes.' '' Congress should be skeptical, to say the least,
that giving federal bureaucrats even more data to sift through will
make the American people safer.
  Congress should examine all government programs that monitor the
financial transactions of American citizens to ensure they are
effective and they do not violate the rights of Americans.
Unfortunately, many of my colleagues are attacking newspapers that
inform the American people about government surveillance on the grounds
that revealing that the federal government is monitoring financial
transactions somehow damages national security. It is odd to claim
that, until last Friday, neither the American people nor America's
enemies had any idea that the government is engaging in massive
surveillance of financial transactions, since the government has been
openly operating major financial surveillance programs since the 1970s
and both the administration and Congress have repeatedly discussed
increasing the government's power to monitor financial transactions. In
fact, such an expansion of the government's ability to spy on
Americans' banking activites was a major part of the PATRIOT Act.
  Congress should be leery of criticizing media reporting on government
activity. Attacking the media for revealing information about
government surveillance of American citizens may make reporters
reluctant to aggressively pursue stories that may embarrass the
government. A reluctance by the media to ``embarrass the state'' will
make it easier for the federal government to get away with violating
the people's rights. Media reports on government surveillance and other
security programs can help Congress and the Americans people ensure the
government's actions effectively protect Americans' security without
infringing on basic constitutional liberties. I therefore urge my
colleagues to reject this resolution.
  Mr. UDALL of Colorado. Mr. Speaker, I object to--and voted against--
the restrictions the Republican leadership has imposed on our
consideration of this resolution.
  Those restrictions made it impossible for the House to even consider
changes to this resolution, including parts to which I must take strong
exception.
  I do agree with some parts of the resolution.
  For example, I agree that ``the United States is currently engaged in
a global war on terrorism to prevent future attacks against American
civilian and military interests at home and abroad.''
  Furthermore, I agree that the House of Representatives ``supports
efforts to identify, track, and pursue suspected foreign terrorists and
their financial supporters by tracking terrorist money flows and
uncovering terrorist networks here and abroad, including through the
use of the Terrorist Finance Tracking Program.''
  And, I do support making clear that the House ``condemns the
unauthorized disclosure of classified information by those persons
responsible and expresses concern that the disclosure may endanger the
lives of American citizens, including members of the Armed Forces, as
well as individuals and organizations that support United States
efforts.''
  But, like most Members of Congress, I cannot of my own knowledge say
it is true that, as the resolution states, the tracking program that is
the subject of the resolution ``only reviews information as part of
specific terrorism investigations and based on intelligence that leads
to targeted searches,'' or that the program ``is firmly rooted in sound
legal authority'' or that it ``consists of the appropriate and limited
use of transaction information while maintaining respect for individual
privacy,'' or that it ``has rigorous safeguards and protocols to
protect privacy.''
  In fact, to paraphrase Will Rogers, most of us--Members of Congress
as well as members of the public at large--know about this only what we
have read in the newspapers or heard over the airwaves.
  So, it is ironic, to say the least, that so many are so ready to
describe and praise the program's details and at the same time condemn
those who told us about those details.
  In short, I think the resolution should not be adopted at this time
because its conclusions are based too much merely on the assertion of
claims for which no solid evidence has been presented. For that reason,
I will vote against it.
  Mr. NADLER. Mr. Speaker, today we see how a great Nation loses its
freedom.
  This resolution seeks to chill free speech by punishing the New York
Times and other publications for doing their job. That is unacceptable
and, frankly, beneath the dignity of the United States Congress. All of
us here took an oath to support and defend the Constitution. Yet those
pushing this resolution seek to do just the opposite: to batter the
Constitution's most hallowed pillar, the right of free speech and a
free press.
  Rampant lawbreaking by the Government, secrecy and selective leaks of
classified information to cover up that illegality, and threats of
retaliation and prosecution against anyone who dares to tell the truth.
  How has the Republican Congress responded? Have they lived up to
their responsibility to get to the truth? To subpoena administration
officials or records? To hold anyone accountable?
  No. The lapdog Republican Congress has worked hand and glove with the
Karl Rove White House to cover up the administration's lies and crimes.
The Republican Congress, with the chorus of cooperating media, has
helped the administration retaliate against anyone who challenges them
or tries to tell the American people the truth.
  Does Osama bin Laden know that we had tapped into his phone lines? Of
course. The administration leaked it to the Washington Times which
published it. Any outrage here? No.
  Did the White House leak the name of a CIA agent to friendly
reporters to retaliate against a critic? Yes. Did the President promise
to fire anyone who leaked? Yes. Now that we know it was the Vice
President and Karl Rove, did the President make good on his promise? Of
course not.
  Does anyone here really think that Osama bin Laden didn't assume we
were tracking bank transactions? Administration officials have
testified before Congress that they did, and, for those members who
read bills before they vote, we required the administration to do just
this in the PATRIOT Act. Not a big secret.
  Do you really think the terrorists didn't know we would be tapping
their phones? The only people who were kept in the dark were the
American people who were never told that their privacy was illegally
being invaded by the government. Bin Laden doesn't care if the
government gets a warrant, but law abiding citizens should and they
have a right to know that, even if the President tries to cover it up.
  If the President breaks the law and covers it up, if the Congress
refuses to get the truth and joins the cover-up, then the free press is
the only guardian of truth and democracy. That is why Thomas Jefferson
said he would prefer a free press without a government to a government
without a free press.
  Free speech and a free press are what keep a Nation free.
  Is it espionage to tell the American people that the President is
breaking the law? Is it treason to report the truth? Of course not. It
is the duty of a free press to tell the truth especially when people in
power would prefer that the American people be kept in the dark.
  Think of the thousands of young people who might still be alive if
the press had more carefully scrutinized the lies and distortions used
to lead this Nation to war in Iraq. Would we know about the illegal use
of torture if the press hadn't uncovered it? Would we know that the
government was spying on innocent citizens without a warrant?
  No President should be able to cover up his wrongdoing just by
declaring it ``secret.'' That is what some here are suggesting. We are
a great and free Nation because the Government can't put you in jail
simply for telling the truth, and the Government can't use its prisons
to cover up its crimes.
  A lawless President cannot hide behind the law. A cover-up Congress
cannot complain if the truth gets out.
  What sort of countries prosecute journalists? What sort of country
hates free speech? Countries whose governments fear the truth. Stalin
locked up journalists. So does China. Free nations do not. As Justice
Brandeis wrote, ``Publicity is justly commended as a remedy for social
and industrial diseases. Sunlight is said to be the best of
disinfectants.''
  Once again, the administration and its apologists tell us that this
activity was legal

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and the leak helps the terrorists. How do we know this? Because they
say so and tell us to trust them.
  After six years of lies and cover-ups, of law breaking and leaking,
this administration and the Republican Congress cannot be trusted.
  Let's get the facts. I haven't seen them, and I don't think the
members who will be voting today have either. We only know what we read
in the papers.
  The American people deserve better from their representatives. They
deserve and demand the truth. Thank G-d we have a free press. Thank G-d
we are still a free people. If the Republican Congress is afraid to get
to the truth, someone else will have to do it for them. For now, we
have a free press. Perhaps next year we will have a Congress willing to
assume its constitutional duties now abandoned by the lap-dog
Republican Congress.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the resolution.
  The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the ayes appeared to have it.
  Mr. OXLEY. Mr. Speaker, on that, I demand the yeas and nays.
  The yeas and nays were ordered.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to clause 8 of rule XX, further
proceedings on this question will be postponed.

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Congressional Record: June 29, 2006 (House)
Page H4892-H4893




     SUPPORTING INTELLIGENCE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT PROGRAMS TO TRACK
                   TERRORISTS AND TERRORIST FINANCES

  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The pending business is the vote on adoption
of House Resolution 895, on which the yeas and nays were ordered.
  The Clerk read the title of the resolution.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the resolution.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 227,
nays 183, not voting 22, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 357]

                               YEAS--227

     Aderholt
     Akin
     Alexander
     Bachus
     Baker
     Barrett (SC)
     Barrow
     Barton (TX)
     Bass
     Bean
     Beauprez
     Biggert
     Bilbray
     Bilirakis
     Blackburn
     Blunt
     Boehlert
     Boehner
     Bonilla
     Bono
     Boozman
     Boren
     Boswell
     Boustany
     Bradley (NH)
     Brady (TX)
     Brown (SC)
     Brown-Waite, Ginny
     Burgess
     Burton (IN)
     Buyer
     Calvert
     Camp (MI)
     Campbell (CA)
     Cantor
     Capito
     Carter
     Castle
     Chabot
     Chocola
     Coble
     Cole (OK)
     Conaway
     Crenshaw
     Cubin
     Cuellar
     Culberson
     Davis (KY)
     Davis, Jo Ann
     Davis, Tom
     Deal (GA)
     DeFazio
     Dent
     Diaz-Balart, L.
     Diaz-Balart, M.
     Doolittle
     Drake
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Edwards
     Ehlers
     Emerson
     English (PA)
     Feeney
     Ferguson
     Flake
     Foley
     Forbes
     Fortenberry
     Fossella
     Foxx
     Franks (AZ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Gallegly
     Gibbons
     Gilchrest
     Gillmor
     Gingrey
     Gohmert
     Goode
     Goodlatte
     Gordon
     Granger
     Graves
     Green (WI)
     Gutknecht
     Hall
     Harris
     Hart
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayes
     Hayworth
     Hefley
     Hensarling
     Herger
     Higgins
     Hobson
     Hoekstra
     Hostettler
     Hulshof
     Hunter
     Hyde
     Inglis (SC)
     Issa
     Istook
     Jenkins
     Jindal
     Johnson (CT)
     Johnson (IL)
     Keller
     Kelly
     Kennedy (MN)
     King (IA)
     King (NY)
     Kingston
     Kirk
     Kline
     Knollenberg
     Kolbe
     Kuhl (NY)
     LaHood
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Leach
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Linder
     LoBiondo
     Lucas
     Lungren, Daniel E.
     Mack
     Marchant
     Marshall
     Matheson
     McCaul (TX)
     McCotter
     McCrery
     McHugh
     McKeon
     McMorris
     Melancon
     Mica
     Miller (FL)
     Miller (MI)
     Miller, Gary
     Murphy
     Musgrave
     Myrick
     Neugebauer
     Ney
     Northup
     Norwood
     Nunes
     Nussle
     Oxley
     Pearce
     Pence
     Peterson (MN)
     Peterson (PA)
     Petri
     Pickering
     Pitts
     Platts
     Poe
     Pombo
     Porter
     Price (GA)
     Pryce (OH)
     Putnam
     Radanovich
     Ramstad
     Regula
     Rehberg
     Reichert
     Renzi
     Reynolds
     Rogers (KY)
     Rogers (MI)
     Rohrabacher
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Ross
     Royce
     Ryan (WI)
     Ryun (KS)
     Salazar
     Saxton
     Schmidt
     Schwarz (MI)
     Sensenbrenner
     Sessions
     Shadegg
     Shaw
     Shimkus
     Shuster
     Simmons
     Simpson
     Skelton
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Sodrel
     Souder
     Stearns
     Sullivan
     Sweeney
     Tancredo
     Taylor (MS)
     Taylor (NC)
     Terry
     Thomas
     Thornberry
     Tiahrt
     Tiberi
     Turner
     Upton
     Walden (OR)
     Wamp
     Weldon (FL)
     Weldon (PA)
     Weller
     Westmoreland
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Wilson (NM)
     Wilson (SC)
     Wolf
     Young (AK)
     Young (FL)

                               NAYS--183

     Abercrombie
     Ackerman
     Allen
     Andrews
     Baca
     Baird
     Baldwin
     Bartlett (MD)
     Becerra
     Berkley
     Berman
     Berry
     Bishop (GA)
     Bishop (NY)
     Boucher
     Brady (PA)
     Brown (OH)
     Brown, Corrine
     Butterfield
     Capps
     Capuano
     Cardin
     Cardoza
     Carnahan
     Carson
     Case
     Chandler
     Clay
     Cleaver
     Clyburn
     Conyers
     Cooper
     Costa
     Costello
     Cramer
     Crowley
     Cummings
     Davis (AL)
     Davis (CA)
     Davis (FL)
     Davis (IL)
     DeGette
     Delahunt
     DeLauro
     Dingell
     Doggett
     Doyle
     Emanuel
     Engel
     Eshoo
     Etheridge
     Farr
     Fattah
     Filner
     Frank (MA)
     Garrett (NJ)
     Gonzalez
     Green, Al
     Grijalva
     Gutierrez
     Harman
     Hastings (FL)
     Herseth
     Hinchey
     Hinojosa
     Holden
     Holt
     Honda
     Hooley
     Hoyer
     Inslee
     Israel
     Jackson (IL)
     Jackson-Lee (TX)
     Jefferson
     Johnson, E. B.
     Jones (NC)
     Kaptur
     Kennedy (RI)
     Kildee
     Kilpatrick (MI)
     Kind
     Kucinich
     Langevin
     Lantos
     Larsen (WA)
     Larson (CT)
     Lee
     Levin
     Lewis (GA)
     Lipinski
     Lofgren, Zoe
     Lowey
     Lynch
     Maloney
     Manzullo
     Markey
     Matsui
     McCarthy
     McCollum (MN)
     McDermott
     McGovern
     McIntyre
     McKinney
     McNulty
     Meehan
     Meek (FL)
     Meeks (NY)
     Michaud
     Millender-McDonald
     Miller (NC)
     Miller, George
     Mollohan
     Moore (KS)
     Moore (WI)
     Moran (VA)
     Murtha
     Nadler
     Napolitano
     Neal (MA)
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Otter
     Owens
     Pallone
     Pascrell
     Pastor
     Paul
     Payne
     Pelosi
     Pomeroy
     Price (NC)
     Rahall
     Rangel
     Reyes
     Rothman
     Roybal-Allard
     Ruppersberger
     Ryan (OH)
     Sabo
     Sanchez, Linda T.
     Sanchez, Loretta

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     Sanders
     Schakowsky
     Schiff
     Schwartz (PA)
     Scott (GA)
     Scott (VA)
     Serrano
     Shays
     Sherman
     Slaughter
     Smith (WA)
     Snyder
     Solis
     Spratt
     Stark
     Strickland
     Stupak
     Tanner
     Tauscher
     Thompson (CA)
     Thompson (MS)
     Tierney
     Towns
     Udall (CO)
     Udall (NM)
     Van Hollen
     Velazquez
     Visclosky
     Walsh
     Wasserman Schultz
     Waters
     Watson
     Watt
     Waxman
     Weiner
     Wexler
     Woolsey
     Wu
     Wynn

                             NOT VOTING--22

     Bishop (UT)
     Blumenauer
     Bonner
     Boyd
     Cannon
     Davis (TN)
     Dicks
     Evans
     Everett
     Fitzpatrick (PA)
     Ford
     Gerlach
     Green, Gene
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones (OH)
     Kanjorski
     McHenry
     Moran (KS)
     Osborne
     Rogers (AL)
     Rush
     Sherwood

                              {time}  1927

  So the resolution was agreed to.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
  A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.
  Stated against:
  Mr. GENE GREEN of Texas. Mr. Speaker, on rollcall No. 357, had I been
present, I would have voted ``no.''

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