FAS Note (01/27/06): The version of this Statement that was published by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence does not include several key paragraphs of Mr. Baker's discussion of Senator DeWine's bill S. 2659 that are presented below. The reason for this discrepancy is currently unknown, but it appears that two versions of the Statement were prepared and circulated at the July 31, 2002 hearing. --Steven Aftergood

Department of Justice





I thank the Chairman and Vice-Chairman for inviting me here today to testify on proposals to amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978, 50 U.S.C. secs. 1801-1811 and 1821-1829, as amended (FISA or the Act).


As Counsel for Intelligence Policy in the Department of Justice, I run the Office of Intelligence Policy and Review that prepares and presents all applications for electronic surveillance and physical search under the Act to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA Court or Court). In that capacity, and operating within a system created and modified by Congress, I welcome the chance to provide the views of the Department on the nature and impact of the changes that have been proposed.

Let me first, however, report in this open forum what, in more detail, we have reported to our oversight committees on the Hill: Congress, in enacting the USA PATRIOT Act, Pub. L. 107-56 (2001), and the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2002, Pub. L. 107-108 (2001), provided the Administration with important new tools that it has used regularly, and effectively, in its war on terrorism. The reforms in those measures have affected every single application made by the Department for electronic surveillance or physical search of suspected terrorists and have enabled the government to become quicker, more flexible, and more focused in going "up" on those suspected terrorists in the United States. One simple but important change that Congress made was to lengthen the time period for us to bring to court applications in support of Attorney General-authorized emergency FISAs. This modification has allowed us to make full and effective use of FISA's pre-existing emergency provisions to ensure that the government acts swiftly to respond to terrorist threats. Again, we are grateful for the tools Congress provided us last fall for the fight against terrorism. Thank you.

I now turn to the two legislative proposals under consideration by your Committee, S.2586 and S. 2659. You have heard/will hear from my colleagues from the FBI and from the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) on operational developments that may bear upon your consideration of these two proposals; I will provide the Department's legal assessment of S. 2586. As I believe the Committee is already aware, I am unable at this time to provide such an assessment of S. 2659 as introduced or in versions that have been presented to us informally.

S. 2586

The Administration supports S. 2586. This legislation would amend Section 101(a)(4) of FISA, 50 U.S.C. sec. 1801(a)(4), to permit FISA coverage of "any person other than a United States person" engaged in international terrorism or activities in preparation therefor. Current law enables coverage of such an individual only if the Government can establish probable cause that he is an agent or member of an international terrorist organization.

The reforms of FISA in the USA PATRIOT Act and in last year's Intelligence Authorization Act all improved how we obtain and retain coverage of international terrorists and other targets defined in section 101 of FISA. S. 2586 would slightly change who, under the definitions of that section, can be covered under FISA.

The FBI and CIA will describe/have described complications that have occurred in the structures and patterns of international terrorism in past years. The planning by actual international terrorist groups may occur overseas and make it difficult for the FBI to connect an individual terrorist to his group abroad; the communication among international terrorists -- as actual close-knit groups or loose associations .-- has become sophisticated and made identities and affiliations more difficult to determine; and the specter of freelancers and volunteers without any "agency" relationship with an international terrorist organization seems very real.

Moreover, a single international terrorist -- with or without the support of an international terrorist group -- can cause grave damage: One person can plant a bomb on an airplane; one person can send anthrax through the mail; one person can assassinate our political leaders; and one person can attack and kill U.S. intelligence officers. For example, in 1993, Mir Aimal Kasi, apparently acting alone, killed two CIA officers and wounded three others in 1993 outside the gates of CIA at Langley.

S. 2586 takes account [of] these changes in the structures and dynamics of international terrorism and enables us to meet this type of threat. The bill would, upon a finding by the FISA Court of probable cause that a non-U.S. person is engaged in international terrorism or in preparations therefor, extend coverage under FISA to include that non-U. S. person.

The Department has concluded that S. 2586 is constitutional. The extension of FISA to include an individual, non-U.S. person international terrorist would add only a modest, though vital, increment to the existing coverage of the statute. As the House Committee Report on FISA suggested, a "group" of terrorists covered by current law might be as small as two or three persons. H.R. Rep. No. 95-1283, at pt. 1, 74 and n.38 (1978). The interests that the courts have found to justify the procedures of FISA are not likely to differ appreciably as between a case involving such a group of two or three persons and a case involving a single terrorist.

In sum, the Administration believes that S. 2586 would be a constitutional and useful reform of FISA that reflects the changes in the structures and patterns of international terrorism that have occurred in recent years. It is a small change in the who of FISA and a complement to the more comprehensive reforms in the how of that Act that the Congress passed last fall.

S. 2659

S. 2659 as introduced would, for FISA coverage of non-U.S. persons, amend Sections 105(a)(3) and 304(a)(3) of FISA, 50 U.S.C. secs. 1805(a)(3) and 1824(a)(3), to change the standard required for FISA surveillance or search from "probable cause" to "reasonable suspicion." Under S. 2659, in other words, the court could authorize electronic surveillance or physical search of a non-U.S. person upon facts constituting "reasonable suspicions" that (1) the non-U. S. person targeted is an agent of a foreign power, and (2) the facilities, places, premises, or property against which electronic surveillance or search is to be directed is used or about to be used by the target. Conforming changes would be made elsewhere in the sections of FISA. Authority for electronic surveillance or physical search of U.S. persons would remain at the current "probable cause" standard.

The Department of Justice has been studying Sen. DeWine's proposed legislation. Because the proposed change raises both significant legal and practical issues, the Administration at this time is not prepared to support it.

The Department's Office of Legal Counsel is analyzing relevant Supreme Court precedent to determine whether a "reasonable suspicion" standard for electronic surveillance and physical searches would, in the FISA context, pass constitutional muster. The issue is not clear cut, and the review process must be thorough because of what is at stake, namely, our ability to conduct investigations that are vital to protecting national security. If we err in our analysis and courts were ultimately to find a "reasonable suspicion" standard unconstitutional, we could potentially put at risk ongoing investigations and prosecutions.

The practical concern involves an assessment of whether the current "probable cause" standard has hamstrung our ability to use FISA surveillance to protect our nation. We have been aggressive in seeking FISA warrants and, thanks to Congress's passage of the USA PATRIOT Act, we have been able to use our expanded FISA tools more effectively to combat terrorist activities. It may not be the case that the probable cause standard has caused any difficulties in our ability to seek the FISA warrants we require, and we will need to engage in a significant review to determine the effect a change in the standard would have on our ongoing operations. If the current standard has not posed an obstacle, then there may be little to gain from the lower standard and, as I previously stated, perhaps much to lose.

I assure [you] that we are moving expeditiously to answer these questions, which, of course, require input from agencies other than the Department of Justice that could be affected by the legislation.


In the meantine, I thank the Committee for the opportunity to present the views of the Department on the proposals before it today. Your consideration of these bills is a part of your continuing efforts to support this Nation's war against terrorism. We have appreciated the close oversight of Members and staff of the your Committee in these critical matters and the proposals that your attention and expertise have generated.

Once again, I want to express the gratitude of my office and of the Department for the tools you have given us to use in our Nation's war against terrorism. I would be pleased to answer any questions you may have in this forum or, if appropriate, in closed session. Thank you.