Congressional Record: February 27, 2002 (Senate)
Page S1241-S1244
TRIP TO LATIN AMERICA
Mr. SPECTER. Mr. President, I would like to report briefly on a trip
to Latin America which I made last month before the Senate went into
session in January.
This trip took me to a number of Latin American countries to discuss
issues of trade and drug control. The
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first stop was in Havana, Cuba, where I had an opportunity to talk to
President Fidel Castro about the serious situation in Cuba on the
deprivation of human rights, and about the failure in Cuba to have
contested elections. I urged President Castro to run in a contested
election.
I had the opportunity to meet with President Castro about 30 months
earlier in June of the year of 1999 and made the same points to him.
However, emphatically, again, when I challenged President Castro to run
against someone in a contested election, he told me he did have an
opponent. His opponent was the United States of America. He said this
in more of a humorous way. The United States policy toward Cuba, I
think, has tended to make, if not quite a martyr, at least a
sympathetic person in President Castro.
We talked about a great many things. With my background as assistant
counsel of the Warren Commission, I asked President Castro if there was
any connection between Lee Harvey Oswald and Cuba. There had been
rumors at the time that Castro and Cuban officials may have put Oswald
up to the assassination of President Kennedy. Those rumors were based
upon the CIA efforts to assassinate Castro in that era. Oswald was a
part of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, which had a rally in New
Orleans. When I asked that of President Castro, he said he was not
responsible for Oswald. He was a Marxist, and not a madman. We talked
in some detail about the Cuban missile crisis in 1962 and why Castro
permitted the Soviets to have missiles in Cuba. He tried to defend
that, I think unpersuasively, with the threats to himself from the Bay
of Pigs invasion and the CIA assassination attempts.
Before going to see him 30 months ago, I checked with the records of
the Church Committee, and found, in fact, that there was evidence about
efforts to assassinate Castro--maybe 8 or 9 such attempts. When I told
Castro that number, he laughed, and said that there had been many, many
more attempts than that--something in the 300 range. I asked him how it
felt to be the subject of assassination attempts.
He said: Muy bien.
This is Spanish for "very good."
I said: No, no. How did it really feel when they were trying to
assassinate you?
Again, he said: Muy bien.
I said: No. How did it really feel?
He said: Do you have a sport?
I said: Yes. My sport is squash.
He said, through the interpreter: Well, avoiding assassination is a
sport for me.
I talked to Castro in some detail about his willingness to have Cuban
airspace and Cuban waters used by the United States to detect drug
trafficking. Toward that end, I offered an amendment to the Foreign
Operations Appropriations bill a year and a half ago, which was
defeated in conference. I offered a milder bill this year which was
accepted, calling for a report from the State Department. However, when
Castro makes an offer to allow Cuban waters and Cuban airspace to
interdict drug traffickers, that is an offer we ought to accept. Drugs
are polluting a generation of Americans and they are a major cause of
street crime in America, which is something that I fought against as
District Attorney of Philadelphia. If we can stop the flow of drugs
with Castro's assistance, we ought to take him up on that offer.
There have been some changes in U.S. policy toward Cuba. The House of
Representatives submitted a bill with a provision to ease travel
restrictions, which was dropped in conference. It is my view that it is
a very small step which ought to be uncontested.
We then traveled to other Latin American countries. We were in
Argentina, where it is well-known that there is a tremendous financial
crisis. Argentina has lived beyond its means. They have the inability
to pay major suppliers, after having talked to major U.S. firms, such
as Exxon-Mobil, IBM, and General Motors. They cannot withdraw money
from their bank accounts to pay their suppliers. The International
Monetary Fund is working on the matter.
It would be my hope that the United States would provide some
leadership and some expertise to try to bring Argentina out of this
economic crisis. I think a good bit of the record from the United
States and the International Monetary Fund has been too harsh. I think
we can make our point without language which borders on arrogance or
borders on insults because Argentina is a very important country in
Latin America.
One of the problems with Latin America is the frequency of the
dictatorships, such as Juan Peron in Argentina, as well as those in
Chile and Brazil. It is just a way of life there. Trade with the United
States, I think, is very important to promote democracy.
In Peru there was great concern regarding the trade agreement with
the United States that had lapsed in December. It is my hope that this
trade bill will be acted upon by the Congress at an early date.
In Chile they are waiting for a trade bill to be enacted, with some
ten rounds of negotiations. The President of Chile is willing to have
an agreement, even if it is not fast tracked, and even if there would
be amendments offered on the floor of the Senate or the House of
Representatives.
In Uruguay we met with the distinguished President Jorge Batlle. We
have a very distinguished U.S. Ambassador there, Martin Silverstein, a
Pennsylvanian. We took a look at the coastline, with the attractive
apartment houses in Montevideo. Uruguay is quite a contrast to the
barren coastline of Havana, Cuba, showing what free enterprise and
democracy can do if it is permitted to operate.
Mr. President, I would just like to add another comment or two about
Brazil, where we met with the equivalent of our National Security
Adviser. There is a little area where Paraguay, Brazil, and Argentina
meet where there are supporters of Hezbollah posing quite a threat to
that area. In Buenos Aires, we met at the Jewish Community Center with
leading Jewish officials there and were told, in detail, about the
bombing of the Jewish Community Center in 1994 and the attack on the
Israeli Embassy. I was pleased to note that the Brazilian officials are
looking into this issue as to the potential terrorist activity arising
out of this group in that little section where Paraguay, Brazil, and
Argentina meet.
On January 2, 2002, we arrived in Havana, Cuba for two days of
meetings with human rights activists, religious leaders, medical
researchers, our U.S. country team, and President Fidel Castro. When we
arrived in Cuba, we were met by the U.S. country team, who briefed us
on the current situation in Cuba.
We began by meeting with a delegation of human rights activists, all
of whom had been jailed during the Castro regime on various charges.
When asked why he was jailed, one of the dissidents, Oswaldo Paya
Sardinas, President of the Christian Liberation Movement, expressed the
general sentiment of the group that he was jailed for the anti-Castro
opinions he publicly expressed. When I asked them their opinion on the
embargo, the group of Cuban dissidents was split on the advisability of
continuing the U.S. embargo with Cuba.
Next we traveled to the Finlay Institute in Havana, a research center
dedicated to the development and testing of vaccines. Our briefing on
the Finlay Institute's work was conducted by a team of researchers
including Dr. Concepcion Campa, Director of the Institute and leader of
the team that developed the vaccine for meningitis B. Supported
entirely by the Cuban government, the Finlay Institute, which I had
previously visited in June 1999, is one of the forty-five biotechnology
facilities supported by government funds. The Cuban government has
demonstrated a commitment to medical research and cooperative
agreements, such as the one the Finlay Institute entered into with
GlaxoSmithKline in 1999, licensed by the U.S. Treasury Department. This
agreement represents a positive and productive relationship with this
ostracized nation.
The next morning we met with a delegation of Cuban officials,
including the Minister of Justice Roberto Sotolongo and Oliverio
Montalvo, the Drug Enforcement Chief. Minister Sotolongo responded to
my question regarding the advisability of cooperation between the U.S.
and Cuba on the drug issues with his hope that the issue not be
politicized. He further stated that exchanges of information between
the U.S. and Cuba could net real results in preventing drugs from
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the U.S. through this region. The Ministers wanted us to know that Cuba
is actively involved in intercepting and destroying contraband found in
Cuban waters en route to the U.S. and elsewhere.
Minister Sotolongo detailed the 1996 incident involving the Limerick,
a successful joint U.S.-Cuba drug interdiction operation. The Limerick,
carrying 6.5 tons of cocaine drifted into Cuban waters and was
impounded. All the evidence was turned over to the United States, and
those involved were tried and convicted in a court with the
participation of Cuban officials.
Our time in Cuba concluded with a meeting with President Fidel
Castro, which lasted six and one-half hours. Many issues were
discussed, including our earlier meeting with the dissidents. President
Castro did not directly respond to the merits of the dissidents'
issues, but chose instead to reprimand our congressional delegation for
holding meetings independent of the schedule that his functionaries had
in mind for us. We flatly rejected his objection.
Our conversation with President Castro began with a wide-ranging
discussion on drug interdiction. President Castro suggested a formal
relationship with the U.S. in order to make progress on drug
interdiction efforts in the area. This was a suggestion made to me by
General Barry McCaffrey, former head of U.S. drug policy in the
previous administration. When asked if he wanted the embargo against
Cuba lifted, President Castro responded, "Can you doubt that?"
We spoke of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on America and
President Castro was asked to condemn Osama bin Laden. While making
general statements against terrorism, President Castro would not
condemn bin Laden, feigning a lack of evidence in his possession to
make such a condemnation. The President also offered that he had not
heard of Osama bin Laden prior to September 11, 2001 incidents and
closed our meeting with a call for a bilateral agreement with Cuba to
fight terrorism.
As we arrived in Cuba, the United States' decision to transfer
detainees from Afghanistan to Guantanamo Bay was being announced
publicly. President Castro had issued a press release saying that the
Government of Cuba had too little information to comment on the U.S.
plan to use Guantanamo Bay for Afghan detainees. At the news conference
on January 4, 2002, before our departure, I was asked about the issue
and said that my apprisal was that President Castro was not going to
object to the U.S. plan to use Guantanamo Bay because if he had an
objection, he would have already expressed it. My meetings with
President Castro, religious leaders, human rights activists, and
medical researchers lead me to believe that we must continue to support
and expand our people-to-people relationships with Cuba. There are many
areas of mutual concern between our two countries, including drug
interdiction and medical research.
On January 4, 2002, Senator Chafee and I traveled to Lima, Peru and
were met by Ambassador John Hamilton. Our meeting with President
Alejandro Toledo included Foreign Minister Diego Garcia Sayan, First
Vice President and Minister of Industry and Trade Raul Diez Canseco,
Trade Vice Minister Alfredo Ferrero, and drug czar Ricardo Vega Llona.
We first exchanged welcoming statements and our expressions of sympathy
to Peru for the tragedy that took place just a week before our arrival
in downtown Lima. A fire, stemming from fireworks, had set ablaze a
shopping district and killed over 250, according to reports at that
time.
The President made clear his desire for a renewed and expanded Andean
Trade Preference Act (ATPA) and for continued assistance in combating
the drug trade. President Toledo expressed concern that the trade
agreement between the United States and Peru had lapsed on December 4,
2001, and urged that the Congress give it prompt consideration. He said
that Peruvian farmers would be tempted to grow products for drug
production instead of textile production, if the agreement was not
extended. I told him I would urge prompt consideration by the Congress.
The President and Ministers made the case that eliminating the coca
trade in Peru is essential to combat terrorism, and spoke strongly to
the elimination of the narco-terrorism as a "matter of national
security." With regards to the general state of the Peruvian economy,
the President reported that they were coming off of three years of
little or no growth, further reporting that the Peruvian economy is
affected by the overall world economy. Senator Chafee and I were
further debriefed on the state of the Peruvian economy by the Minister
of Economy and Finance Pedro Pablo Kuczynski.
The President further described his "full commitment" to reform of
the Peruvian judicial system. In a separate meeting, I queried the drug
czar and his colleagues further on the progress of the drug war in Peru
and the region. There was general agreement with my point that progress
is difficult without a reduction in the demand for drugs. Meeting
participants reiterated the need for the Andean anti-drug plan, which
offers increased intelligence sharing, regional air coverage, and
maritime cooperation among the Andean nations. Further, it was
emphasized that an alternative crop or industry to drug crops was
essential for local farmers.
From Lima, Peru, Senator Chafee and I traveled to Santiago, Chile on
January 6, 2002. After our meeting with President Ricardo Lagos, I
wrote a letter to President Bush and Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill
expressing President Lagos' strong support for the U.S.-Chile Bilateral
Free Trade Agreement (FTA) without linkage to passage by the U.S.
Congress of trade promotion authority. President Lagos expressed his
concern that ongoing congressional negotiations with the White House
regarding trade promotion authority may further delay consideration of
the Bilateral FTA with Chile. The President further stated that Chile
wants "trade not aid."
Additional topics discussed included the potential F-16 sale to
Chile, as well as the Pinochet and Letelier/Moffit cases. On December
27, 2000, the Chilean Ministry of Defense announced that the Government
of Chile had authorized the Chilean Air Force to initiate discussions
on the purchase of ten Lockheed Martin F-16 Fighting Falcons, Block 50,
from the United States. The F-16 was chosen over the French Mirage and
the Swedish Gripen on its merits in a competitive, transparent
selection process.
Regarding the Letelier/Moffit case, which involved the 1976 car bomb
murder in Washington, D.C. of former Chilean Ambassador the U.S.
Orlando Letelier and his American citizen assistant, Ronnie Moffit. I
told the President that the jail sentences of six, seven, and eight
years, which were given to those involved in this terrorist act on U.S.
soil, were not sufficient in my opinion and asked his opinion on the
extradition of those individuals to the U.S. for trial. President Lagos
responded that he cannot take a position that would appear to pressure
the Court, but that his impression was such that the Court, on its own,
might well order extradition.
Concerning counter-terrorism and the events of September 11, 2001,
the President expressed strong condemnation of the terrorist attacks.
This expression is in keeping the Lagos Administration's action
immediately following the terrorist attacks in the U.S. As head of the
RIO Group of Latin American countries in 2001, Chile leads the
coordinated counter-terrorism efforts for the Group.
On January 8, 2002, Senator Chafee and I arrived in Buenos Aires,
Argentina, just one week after the latest President was installed
during this tumultuous time in that country. Newly-installed President
Eduardo Duhalde, the fifth president in thirteen days, is confronted
with a bankrupt government and a citizenry deeply dispirited after four
years of a worsening economy and recent political instability. It is
unclear at this time if this administration is capable, or willing, to
put together a viable long-term economic plan to pull Argentina out of
its very serious economic situation.
President Duhalde told us that his administration would have a new
budget passed within fifteen days with a plan to retire his country's
industrial debt, which could then justify further aid from the
International Monetary Fund. Corporate representatives from Bank of
Boston, General Motors, IBM, and ESSO detailed the extremely difficult
business environment, including
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a freeze of all bank that precluded the paying of suppliers and
subcontractors. This issue, along with the ongoing currency crises,
made for an extremely precarious business environment as described by
the executives.
Senator Chafee and I visited the Jewish Community Center and the site
of a 1994 terrorist attack that killed eighty-four people. Upon our
arrival to the Community Center, it was explained to us that the line
in front of the building was persons visiting the visa office applying
for travel to Israel as an escape from the Argentine economic
situation.
On January 10, 2002, Senator Chafee and I proceeded next to
Montevideo, Uruguay for meetings with President Jorge Batlle and the
Chief of Staff and National Drug and Anti-Terrorism Coordinator
Leonardo Costa. We were accompanied by Ambassador Martin Silverstein, a
Pennsylvanian, who is serving with distinction.
We met with President Batlle for over one and one-half hours
discussing Argentina, International Patent Rights (IPR), free trade
issues, and narcotics. Regarding the Argentine economic crisis, the
President was generally optimistic, providing that the new government
follows the programs of the newly-installed Economic Minister Jorge
Lenikov. President Batlle stated that President Duhalde appeared to
have a strong majority within the Parliament.
On International Patent Rights, the President expressed disagreement
with the U.S. Government's approach to IPR legislation. While he favors
drug legalization, he would not implement such a policy without an
international consensus. I took the opportunity to praise the
President's support for Free Trade Area of the Americas and free trade,
pointing out that this seemed to contrast with the government's
unwillingness to enact a strong copyright bill, which is an essential
tool for attracting investment.
On January 11, 2001, we traveled to Brasilia, Brazil where our first
meeting was with representatives from the Brazilian Ministry of Health
to discuss the government's response to HIV and AIDS. A comprehensive
presentation by Claudio Duarte da Fonseca and Rosemeire Munhoz with the
Health Ministry detailed Brazil's national response to their growing
numbers of HIV and AIDS cases. Governmental lead efforts include
prevention campaigns, mass media campaigns, behavioral interventions,
condom distribution, and a policy of universal and free-of-charge
access to ARV drugs.
Our meeting with General Alberto Cardoso, the counterpart to our
National Security Adviser, provided assurances of cooperation from his
country with the U.S. and Israel efforts to oppose financing of
Hezbollah terrorism from an enclave at the border of Paraguay,
Argentina, and Brazil. There was no reason to believe that support has
come from residents of that area for the bombing of the Israeli Embassy
in Argentina in 1992 and the Jewish Community Center in Buenos Aires in
1994. With the worldwide focus on cutting off terrorist funding, the
tri-border area is under international scrutiny.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Connecticut is recognized.
Mr. DODD. Mr. President, first of all, I ask unanimous consent to
speak as in morning business for 2 minutes.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
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