Congressional Record: May 21, 2002 (House)
Page H2820-H2834



  DEFENDING PRESIDENT BUSH REGARDING KNOWLEDGE OF SEPTEMBER 11, 2001,
THREAT, AND DETAILING UPCOMING TRAVEL TO RUSSIA, UZBEKISTAN, CHINA, AND
                              NORTH KOREA

  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Issa). Under the Speaker's announced
policy of January 3, 2001, the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Weldon)
is recognized provisionally for half the time remaining until midnight.
  Mr. WELDON of Pennsylvania. Mr. Speaker, I take the time this
evening, and thank the Speaker and the staff for bearing with me, to
basically perform two functions.
  First of all, I will respond to those critics of President Bush who
have taken unfair shots at him over the 9-11 situation, and will
factually refute what people like the minority leader, the gentleman
from Missouri (Mr. Gephardt), have said publicly about this President
somehow not heeding evidence that was provided to him.
  I am going to present the true facts of what we could have and should
have done prior to September 11 that I think would have allowed us to
both understand what was about to occur and to have done something
about it.
  The second action I am going to discuss this evening is an upcoming
trip that I will be leading to Russia, Uzbekistan, Beijing, China, as
well as Pyongyang, North Korea, the first delegation going into that
country, and Seoul, South Korea, at the end of this week.
  Mr. Speaker, let me start out by saying, first of all, in response to
many of the media pundits who have spent the last week or 10 days
criticizing President Bush and have publicly said that he had
indications that should have alerted him to the upcoming attack on the
World Trade Center, nothing could be farther from the truth. The facts
are all in. The data the President got were basically individual
elements provided by individual agencies about potential acts that
might be against our country, nowhere near the immensity of what we
actually saw on September 11.
  They were bits of information, like the CIA saying there might be an
attempt to hijack an airplane, but no linkage of that act to an attack
on the Trade Center; or the fact that other agencies were looking at
pilots that were obtaining licenses and had no intention of landing an
airplane. Each of these bits of information, while being provided to
the upper levels of our government, in and of themselves would not lead
anyone to believe that an imminent attack was about to occur on the
Trade Center.
  But Mr. Speaker, as I said on September 11 on CNN live at 12 noon
from the roof of a church across from the Capitol, on that day the
government did fail the American people. Now, the President did not
fail the American people, but the government failed the American
people.
  I am going to document for our colleagues today, and for the American
public and the media, steps that we took in the years prior to
September 11 when our agencies and the government did not respond. This
started back in the Clinton administration and continued during the
Bush administration.
  In fact, Mr. Speaker, during the late 1990s, I chaired the Committee
on Research for our national security, which meant that my job was to
oversee about $38 billion a year that we spend on cutting-edge
technology for the military.
  One of those projects that I helped get additional funding for was
the Information Dominant Center that the Army was standing up down at
Fort Belvoir, technically known as the LIWAC. This Land Information
Warfare Assessment Center was designed to monitor on a 24-hour-a-day
basis 7 days a week all of our military classified systems, those
systems used to run the Army. Each of our services was in the process
of standing up an entity like the one that the Army stood up at Fort
Belvoir.
  Back in 1997, as I was supporting increased funding for this
capability, I was amazed in two trips that I took to Fort Belvoir that
the Army was not just able to maintain security over their information
systems, but they were able to use new software tools and high-speed
computers to do what is commonly called ``profiling,'' to take vast
amounts of information about the classified and unclassified
information and process it and analyze it so that a picture could be
drawn and a threat could be developed, proliferation could be
monitored.

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  Now, this was back in 1997. In fact, I had a chance to use these
capabilities and I think this story, more than any other, underscores
the inabilities of our agencies on September 11 to really understand
the threat that was emerging.

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  As you might recall, back in 1997 we had gotten into a war in Kosovo
to remove Milosevic from power. All of Congress was not supportive of
that conflict. In fact, I opposed the initial involvement with
President Clinton by our troops, not because I have supported Milosevic
but because I felt that we did not force Russia or allow Russia to play
a more vibrant role in helping us to get Milosevic out of power.
  Two weeks after the bombing campaign started, I started to receive
telephone calls and started to receive e-mails from my Russian
colleagues in the State Duma. People who are senior leaders who called
me and e-mailed me and said we have a real problem. Your policy of
bombing Milosevic and innocent Serbs is causing the Russian people to
lose confidence in what America's real intent is, and you are driving
Russia further away from our country. And I said what do you want me to
do? They said we need you to convince your president that Russia can
help play a role in ending the war and getting Milosevic out of office.
And the Russians told me that they wanted me to go to Belgrade in the
middle of the conflict, that they would arrange a meeting with
Milosevic.
  Well, I told them that that was very much undoable because we were in
the middle of a war. We were bombing Serbia at the time. But I asked
them to put that request in writing and they did. Within the next few
days I got a letter on official Duma stationery where the Russians
outlined their desire to take me and a delegation of Members of
Congress to Belgrade, Yugoslavia. They outlined who would come from the
Russian side and they committed that they would have a meeting with
Milosevic personally with a date and time certain. They also agreed to
visit a refugee camp of our choosing so we could show them the damage
that Milosevic had caused innocent people, and they also agreed to
release the three American POWs that were being held hostage.
  When the letter came, it also included the name of an individual I
did not know. His name was Dragomir Kric. The Russians had told me that
this individual was very close to Milosevic personally, that the
Russians trusted him, and that he was the guy that would get Milosevic
to agree to the terms to end the hostilities against the Serbian,
Yugoslavian people.
  The Russian request I then took to the State Department with my
colleague, the gentleman from Maryland (Mr. Hoyer) on the other side.
We had a 1 hour and 30 minute meeting in the Office of Deputy Secretary
of State Strobe Talbott. We outlined for him what the Russians had
requested for us and that we were willing to lead a delegation into
Belgrade in spite of the war going on. Strobe Talbott listened and he
said, I do not think it is a good idea. He said we cannot guarantee
your safety and we do not think Milosevic will do what the Russians say
he will do, and we think he will just use you. So my advice is not to
go, but as citizens in America you can do what you want.
  I said that we would not violate the request of our State Department
and would not go. But the gentleman from Maryland (Mr. Hoyer) suggested
that perhaps we should meet the Russians in a neutral city and he
suggested Vienna. Strobe Talbott said that was fine. So I came back to
Capitol Hill and I sent a letter to all 435 members of the House
outlining for them what the Russians had asked, what the administration
response was, and invited every Member of this body to attend a meeting
if they were interested in going with us to Vienna. From the meeting
that we held 1- Members of Congress, 5 Democrats and 5 Republicans,
volunteered to go with me to Vienna to meet with our Russian
counterparts and Mr. Kric.
  Now, before we left on that trip I wanted to know something about
Kric so I called the CIA director, George Tennant. I said I do not know
who this guy is. The Russians are convinced that he can give us
information that will allow us to get Milosevic to agree to our terms.
Can you tell me something about him as the director of the CIA?
  He called me back the next day and gave me 2 or 3 sentences about
Dragomir Kric and said that they thought he was tied in with the
corruption in Russia but did not know much else about him.
  Without telling anyone, Mr. Speaker, I went back to my friends at the
Army Information Dominence Center, and I said can you run me a profile
of a Dragomir Kric and tell me something about him. They ran a profile
and they came back to me with 8 pages of information about this man,
the profile of someone who was very close to Milosevic personally.
  With that information, we left on a military plane on a Thursday
afternoon after votes and flew all night to Vienna, arrived on Friday
morning, and began our discussions in the hotel in Vienna with the 11
members of Congress, a State Department representative, the 5 Russians
and Dragomir Kric.

  We worked all through Friday into the night and into Saturday. And by
Saturday midday something historic had happened. The Russians had
agreed to the terms that we wanted to end the conflict. The Russians
had agreed to things they had never agreed to. During the time when we
were meeting, Kric was calling back to Belgrade talking to Milosevic on
the phone personally. He would come back in the room and he would tell
us what Milosevic was happy with and what he was not, but we were not
there to negotiate with Milosevic. We were there to get the Russians to
agree with us on an end to the conflict.
  By 2 o'clock on Saturday afternoon we reached agreement. It was word
for word read by the Russian and American side and we all signed off on
an end to the war. It was an historic time for us because we thought we
could stop the bombing and stop killing innocent people and get
Milosevic out of power.
  Kric immediately left the room and made a phone call. He came back in
the room and said I just talked to Milosevic personally, and he has
assured me that if we go down as a group right now to Belgrade, and I
will hire the bus, and we all go down together, Milosevic will meet
with us, he will agree to this framework which ends his reign. He will
agree to accept international peacekeeping force to disarm the Serbs,
and he will agree to allowing a U.N. or NATO force to bring stability
to this country. And he will also release the 3 POWs that have not been
heard from since they were captured by Milosevic.
  Well, that was pretty historic, Mr. Speaker. So my colleagues on the
other side called the White House from Vienna. They get on the White
House operation center phone line and talked to John Podesta, the chief
of staff for the President. And they said we have something that you
have to get to President Clinton immediately. We have negotiated what
we think is the end of the Kosovo war with the Russians, with a
representative of Milosevic agreeing to the terms.
  Another representative with us of the State Department called the
State Department operations center and he told them what had
transpired. So he notified both the White House and the State
Department. The State Department said let me talk to Congressman
Weldon. So I got on the phone. On the other end of the line was Steven
Sestanovich who was at that time in charge of the Russia desk at the
State Department.
  I outlined for him what had occurred. He said, Curt, this is amazing
but it is above my pay grade. I cannot tell you what to do. Hold on and
I will have someone else call you back. Thirty minutes later, Mr.
Speaker, I got a call from Tom Pickering. Tom Pickering was at that
time number three in the State Department and had been the ambassador
for us to Russia. I had known him in that capacity. He said, Curt, what
is going on? And I explained to him that we had met with the Russians
and Kric. We had reached agreement, and that Milosovic through Kric was
saying that he was prepared to end the war if we went down to Belgrade.
So I said to Tom Pickering, what do you think we should do?
  He said, Curt, first of all, we do not trust Milosevic. We do not
think that he will live up to what he is telling you through this guy
Kric; and, furthermore, Curt, I do not even know who Kric is. I never
heard of this guy and how could you believe that somehow he speaks for
Milosevic?
  I said, Tom, I did not know Kric either before I came here, but I
know the Russians. They are my friends, and they have convinced me that
he is the

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person that can get Milosevic to do what we want. He said, I do not
think it is a good idea. In fact, let me tell you, the Reverend Jesse
Jackson has been in Belgrade for a week. We have been in constant
communication with him. In fact, he is coming home today. His
delegation has been unsuccessful. They were trying to get the three
POWs released, he said, but their mission has failed.

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  What makes you think that you can do something that the Reverend
Jesse Jackson could do? I do not know, Tom. All I am telling you is
what the Russians are saying based upon Kric's taught discussions with
Milosevic. He said I do not think you should go, and I said okay, then
we will not, because we are a Nation of laws and not of people.
  I came back to the room where the Members of Congress were seated
with our Russian counterparts. I told them the story, and they
immediately became incensed at me. Kric called me a coward for not
taking a delegation to Belgrade. He said, You just lost a chance to end
the war and bring home your POWs.
  I had Members of Congress from both parties telling me they were
going to go on their own, and I said, Oh no, you are not; we came in a
military plane that I acquired; you are going back to America with me.
  So the 11 Members of Congress and the Russians and our State
Department official sat down and discussed how we would implement our
plan instead of going to see Milosevic in Belgrade. Kric went out of
the room and came back in after making a phone call, and said, You just
blew it; Milosevic had said you had a chance to end the war, to get him
to publicly accept this agreement and he would release the POWs.
  We continued to meet. Two hours later, our Navy escort came into the
room, and he said to the 11 Members of Congress that CNN has just
announced that Milosevic is releasing the POWs to Jesse Jackson's
delegation. Kric told us that Milosevic did not want to keep them
because he was fearful they would be harmed and we would blame him for
their injuries. Even though he did not want to release them to Jesse
Jackson, he did.
  To continue the story and make my point, Mr. Speaker, we all came
back home to America. We briefed our colleagues. We briefed the
administration. We presented the framework that we negotiated, and 8
days later, or 2 weeks later, that became the basis of the G-8
agreement to end the war. So our work was fruitful, but something
interesting happened that applies to September 11.
  I got a call from the FBI in my office asking my staff to allow two
agents to come over for me to brief them, for me to brief them, on a
fellow named Dragomir Kric. I said, Fine, set it up for Monday
afternoon in my office in the Rayburn Building. I went back to
Pennsylvania, and on the Friday before that Monday, my office paged me
with a 911 page. I called them and they said, You must call CIA
congressional affairs immediately. I did.
  The CIA said, Congressman, we are going to fly two agents to
Philadelphia right now. They will meet you at the airport, they will
come to your home, they will come to a hotel, wherever you want to meet
them, but they have to talk to you immediately. I said, What is the
urgency? They said, We have been tasked by the State Department to
brief them on Dragomir Kric and we want you to tell us what you know
about him. I said, Well, the FBI already asked for that information,
why can't we do it together on Monday afternoon?
  So that Monday afternoon I had four agents in my office: two CIA
agents, one CI person and two FBI agents. For two hours they grilled me
with four pages of questions about Kric.
  I answered all their questions. I told them that there were four Kric
brothers, that they were the owners of the largest banking system in
the former Yugoslavia; that they employed some 60,000 people; that
their bank had tried to finance the sale of an SA-10 from Russia to
Milosevic; that their bank had been involved in a $4 billion German
bond scam; that one of the brothers had financed Milosevic's election;
that the house Milosevic lived in was really their house; that, in
fact, Krics' wives were best of friends with Milosevic's wife; and that
they were the closest people to this leader.
  I told them all the information. When I got done, Mr. Speaker, I
said, Now, do you want to know where I got my data from? They said,
Yeah, you got it from the Russians. I said, No. They said, Well, then
you got it from Kric. I said, No. I said, Before I went over there I
had the Army's information dominant center run a profile for me of
Dragomir Kric.
  The FBI and the CIA in 1997 said to me, what is the Army's
information dominant center? The FBI and the CIA had no knowledge that
our military was developing a capability that would be able to do
massive data mining of information to allow us to do a profile of a
person or an event that was about to happen.
  We took that model, based on that lesson which infuriated me as a
Member of Congress to be asked to brief the CIA and the FBI, and
working with people in the intelligence agencies, I developed a plan.
This plan was to create a national collaborative center.
  Back in 1997, Mr. Speaker, the national collaborative center where
there were articles written, published in the media, technical media
here was called the NOAH, N-O-A-H. It stands for National Operations
and Analysis Hub. The function of the NOAH would be to have all 32
Federal agencies that have classified systems have a node of each of
those systems in one central location managed by one of their
employees, and when tasked by the national command authority, the
President or the National Security Council, their data would be entered
into a massive computer using new software tools like STARLITE and
SPIRES and six others that are used by the private sector to do data
mining.

  In addition to classified information systems, they would also run
through massive amounts of unclassified data, newspaper stories,
magazine story, TV broadcasts, radio broadcasts. A person cannot do
that manually, but they can do it through high-speed computers, as the
Army did for me in developing the profile of Kric.
  We took this plan and we said to the intelligence community, this is
what we need to have to be prepared for threats in the 21st century,
because the threats we are going to see over the next several decades
will not come only from one nation state, they will come from terrorist
organizations. We need to be able to pool all this data together and be
able to profile it, analyze it and then come back with a true picture
of what may be about to occur.
  Mr. Speaker, this was in 1997. I briefed John Hamre. Dr. John Hamre
was then the Deputy Secretary of Defense. I said, John, you have got to
go down to Fort Belvoir and see this facility; it is amazing. He went
down twice. He called me back and he said, Curt, it is amazing what
they are doing there. This profiling worked, and they could do it
because unofficially some other secret lines were running through Fort
Belvoir that the Army could unofficially access. So it really was an
official process.
  He said, But you know, Curt, I cannot get to where you want to go
because the CIA and the FBI will not cooperate and neither will the
other agencies. He said, So I have a suggestion for you. Why do you not
host a meeting in your office? I will come and you invite my
counterparts at the FBI and the CIA.
  So, Mr. Speaker, in my office, in 1998, I had the Deputy Secretary of
Defense, the Deputy Director of the CIA and the Deputy Director of the
FBI, four of us met for 1 hour. We briefed them on the NOAH. We talked
about the need for a national collaborative center, national data
fusion center; and the response was, We do not need to do that right
now, we are doing our own systems in our own agencies; so thank you for
your recommendations, and we are trying to share but not the way you
want because that is too bold. That is too aggressive. This was 1998,
Mr. Speaker.
  Not satisfied with that, we held hearings. We did briefings for our
colleagues; and in two consecutive defense bills, I put language in the
bill that basically said the Defense Department and our intelligence
agencies had to create a national collaborative center. So it became a
part of the law; but Mr. Speaker, the agencies refused. They

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said we do not need to do that, we do our job very well.
  Each of them does their job very well, but the problem is the threats
in the 21st century will be seen from a number of different sources. It
may be information coming from the Customs Department or from the
Defense Intelligence Agency or from the NSA or from the CIA or the FBI
or Commerce, State and Justice, all of which have classified systems;
or it may come from some public statements in articles in other
countries. We can only have the capability to understand all of that if
we have a national fusion center.

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  We did not have that capability before September 11. That is why I
stood up on September 11, at 12 p.m. in the afternoon and said, ``Today
our government failed the American people.'' Because, Mr. Speaker, we
knew what we should have done. We knew what we could have done. And we
did not do it.
  In fact, Mr. Speaker, I firmly believe that if we would have
implemented the NOAH, which John Hamre offered to pay for with DOD
dollars, back when we first recommended it, I am convinced we could
have stopped or known about and prevented September 11 from ever
happening.
  Let me give an example. CIA information on terrorism, combined with
what the FBI knew about training pilots and open-source information on
remarks by al Qaeda, would have helped the intelligence community and
enforcement agencies focus better on the threat. For example, in August
of 2000, an al Qaeda member had been interviewed by an Italian
newspaper and reported that al Qaeda was training kamikaze pilots. The
intelligence community and enforcement agencies, however, do not read
open-source information. Yes, they read all the classified stuff, but
this interview in 2000 was in an open-source newspaper account in
Italy.
  If we would have had a fusion center, all of that data would have
been processed, and in very real quick time, through massive high-speed
computers, and we would have seen the linkages between what was
occurring. But with each agency doing its own thing, it is impossible
to see the linkages. And that is why when President Bush before
September 11 got a bit of information from the CIA and a bit from the
FBI, and something else, and nothing from open sources, there is no way
he could have foretold what was about to occur.
  If we would have had the NOAH in place, an idea that was developed
with the intelligence community, an idea that was briefed to the FBI,
briefed to the CIA and briefed to the Defense Department, I think we
could have done something to prevent al Qaeda.
  In fact, Mr. Speaker, there is another interesting development that
occurred. After the Army showed the capability of the LIWAC model at
Ft. Belvoir, other services began to take interest. Special forces
command down in Florida contacted the Army and said, hey, we hear you
are doing some neat things. We want to build a mini version of what you
are doing down at our headquarters.
  I did not find out about this until October of 2001, after the attack
on the trade center. A year before, special forces command developed
their own mini version of a data processing or collaborative center
with very limited capabilities. But what they did, Mr. Speaker, they
did a profile of al Qaeda 1 year before 9-11.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Issa). The gentleman from Pennsylvania
(Mr. Weldon) is recognized to continue until midnight.
  Mr. WELDON of Pennsylvania. Mr. Speaker, here is the chart, the
unclassified chart of what special forces command had 1 year before 9-
11. Interesting. The entire al Qaeda network is identified in a graphic
chart with all the linkages to all the terrorist groups around the
world.
  In fact, Mr. Speaker, I was told by the folks who developed the
capability for special forces command that this chart and the briefing
that was supposed to be given to General Shelton, Chairman of our Joint
Chiefs, had a recommendation to take out 5 cells of bin Laden's
network. Mr. Speaker, this was 1 year before 9-11. This was not during
President Bush's administration. This occurred in the fall of the
remaining term of President Bill Clinton.
  The key question I have been trying to get at is why was this 3-hour
briefing, which I also got, I got General Holland to bring his briefers
up from Florida with special forces, I went in the Pentagon, went in
the tank, and they gave me the briefing, as much as they could give me,
because part of it is being used for our operational plan, why was that
3-hour briefing with the recommendations to take out 5 cells of bin
Laden's network condensed down to a 1-hour brief when it was given to
General Hugh Shelton in January of 2001? And why were the
recommendations to take out 5 cells not followed up on? That is the
question we should get answered, Mr. Speaker.
  Because 1 year before 9-11, the capability that special forces built
actually identified to us the network of al Qaeda. And they went beyond
that and gave us recommendations where we could take out cells to
eliminate their capability. So for those pundits out there sitting in
their armchairs criticizing President Bush, they have it all wrong.
  Facts are a tough thing to refute, and the fact is that back in 1997,
we told the administration at that time what to do. In 1998, we briefed
the agencies. In 1999, we put language in a defense bill. In 2000, we
put language in a defense bill. In 2000, special forces command built
another mini version of that capability. And in 2000 they briefed
General Shelton telling him to take out 5 cells of bin Laden's network.
All of that activity could have prevented or helped to prevent 9-11
from ever occurring. I challenge my colleagues, Mr. Speaker, to review
the facts. I challenge the media to report the truth.
  We still do not have a national collaborative center. That capability
still does not exist. We are getting there, but it has been a long
road. I briefed our Homeland Security Director Tom Ridge, with the
gentleman from Indiana (Mr. Burton), chairman of the Committee on
Government Reform, about 4 months ago. He agreed with us, but he has
not yet been able to achieve this new interagency collaborative center,
and that is an indictment of our government that the American people
deserve to be outraged over.
  We need this kind of capability in the 21st century, because these
bits of pieces of information have to be pieced together, both
classified and unclassified, so that our analysts can get the clear
picture of what may be about to occur against our people and our
friends.
  So, Mr. Speaker, I seek to clarify the charges against the President
and to answer them, and I encourage my colleagues to learn more about
the need for a national collaborative center, a national data fusion
center or, as I call it, a national operations and analysis hub.
  Mr. Speaker, I will enter into the Record the documentation from as
far back as 1998, 1999, and 2000 with our recommendations to implement
this kind of capability:

     of an Office of Transformation within the Office of the
     Secretary of Defense to advise the Secretary on--
       (1) development of force transformation strategies to
     ensure that the military of the future is prepared to
     dissuade potential military competitors and, if that fails,
     to fight and win decisively across the spectrum of future
     conflict;
       (2) ensuring a continuous and broadly focused
     transformation process;
       (3) service and joint acquisition and experimentation
     efforts, funding for experimentation efforts, promising
     operational concepts and technologies and other
     transformation activities, as appropriate; and
       (4) development of service and joint operational concepts,
     transformation implementation strategies, and risk management
     strategies.
       (c) Sense of Congress of Funding.--It is the sense of
     Congress that the Secretary of Defense should consider
     providing funding adequate for sponsoring selective
     prototyping efforts, wargames, and studies and analyses and
     for appropriate staffing, as recommended by the director of
     an Office of Transformation as described in subsection (b).

     SEC. 903. REVISED JOINT REPORT ON ESTABLISHMENT OF NATIONAL
                   COLLABORATIVE INFORMATION ANALYSIS CAPABILITY.

       (A) Revised Report.--At the same time as the submission of
     the budget for fiscal year 2003 under section 1105 of title
     31, United States Code, the Secretary of Defense and the
     Director of Central Intelligence shall submit to the
     congressional defense committees and the congressional
     intelligence committees a revised report assessing
     alternatives for the establishment of a national

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     collaborative information analysis capability.
       (b) Matters Included.--The revised report shall cover the
     same matters required to be included in the DOD/CIA report,
     except that the alternative architectures assessed in the
     revised report shall be limited to architectures that include
     the participation of All Federal agencies involved in the
     collection of intelligence. The revised report shall also
     include a draft of legislation sufficient to carry out the
     preferred architecture identified in the revised report.
       (c) Officials To Be Consulted.--The revised report shall be
     prepared after consultation with all appropriate Federal
     officials, including the following:
       (1) The Secretary of the Treasury.
       (2) The Secretary of Commerce.
       (3) The Secretary of State.
       (4) The Attorney General.
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               Defense Information and Electronics Report


 weldon: dod needs massive intelligence network for shared threat info

       Senior Pentagon officials are mulling over an idea proposed
     by Rep. Curt Weldon (R-PA) that would link classified and
     unclassified documents in a massive intelligence
     clearinghouse that could be accessed by 33 federal agencies--
     a concept similar in some ways to one floated by DOD
     intelligence officials but with significantly fewer players
     involved.
       ``Our problem with intelligence is that we're stove-
     pipped,'' said Weldon, chairman of the House Armed Services
     military research and development subcommittee, during a Nov.
     8 interview. ``Each agency has its own way of collecting data
     and analyzing it, but they don't share that information with
     other agencies. The need is to have a better system of
     analyzing and fusing data sets across agencies and services--
     certainly within the Pentagon and the military, but my
     opinion is that we have to go further than that.''
       Weldon first proposed the concept of a ``National
     Operations Analysis Hub'' to Deputy Defense Secretary John
     Hamre last June, although the congressman said he kept his
     initiative quiet until a stronger plan could be developed.
       The Pentagon-funded network of agencies would be operated
     by DOD. According to Weldon, it would pull together large
     amounts of information to produce intelligence profiles of
     people, regions and national security threats, such as
     information warfare and cyber-terrorism.
       ``The NOAH concept of a national collaborative environment
     supporting policy and decision-makers mirrors the ideas you
     have expressed to me in recent discussions, and it is a
     tangible way to confront the growing asymmetrical threats to
     our nation,'' Weldon wrote in his July 30 letter to Hamre.
       The NOAH concept, however, was not wholeheartedly embraced
     by Hamre, who met with Weldon last summer and told the
     congressman his suggested use of the Army's Land Information
     Warfare Activity at Ft. Belvoir, VA, as a model for NOAH,
     would never stick.
       Because LIWA is already short of resources, the Army is
     apprehensive about taking on any new tasks, Hamre told
     Weldon.
       Weldon, in a July 21 letter to Hamre, also urged the
     Pentagon to support additional future funding for LIWA,
     citing critical budget shortfalls that he said have kept the
     agency from fulfilling a barrage of requests for intelligence
     files from Army commanders (Defense Information and
     Electronics Report, July 30, p1).
       ``There's massive amounts of data out there, and you have
     to be able to analyze it and create ways to focus on that
     data so its relevant to whatever you're interested in,'' he
     said this week about his support for LIWA. ``Well, the Army
     has already done that.''
       While Weldon continues to push for NOAH to be patterned
     after LIWA, he sees it operating on a much larger scale.
     Impressed by its ability to pull together huge amounts of
     both unclassified and classified data, Weldon noted LIWA's
     Information Dominance Center can create in-depth profiles
     that could be useful to the CIA, FBI and the White House. Yet
     most federal agencies don't even know LIWA exists, he added.
       ``Right now the military is limited to [its] own sources of
     information,'' Weldon said. ``And in the 21st century, a
     terrorist group is more than likely going to be involved with
     terrorist nations. So the boundaries are crossed all the
     time. We don't have any way to share that and get beyond the
     stove-pipping.''
       Meanwhile, officials within the Defense Department's
     intelligence community have been considering another way to
     amass intelligence information through a concept called the
     Joint Counter-intelligence Assessment Group. A DOD
     spokeswoman said proponents of the idea, for now, are
     unwilling to disclose details about it. She was also unable
     to say whether a formal proposal to Hamre had been made yet.
       In Weldon's July 30 letter to Hamre, however, Weldon
     alludes to an ongoing, ``initiative to link
     counterintelligence groups throughout the community.''
       ``I have heard of an attempts to connect the Office of Drug
     Control Policy (ONDCP) and [Office of the Secretary of
     Defense] assets with federal, state and local law enforcement
     agencies,'' Weldon wrote.
       However, Weldon said in the interview he believes JCAG is
     simply more ``stove-pipping.''
       `I also have seen what the Army has done at LIWA, which has
     created a foundation for creating a higher-level architecture
     collaborating all of these efforts,'' his July letter states.
       NOAH would link together almost every federal agency with
     intelligence capabilities, including the National Security
     Agency, the National Imagery and Mapping Agency, the Energy
     Department, the CIA and the FBI. Both Congress and the White
     House would be offered a ``node'' for briefing capabilities,
     meaning intelligence agencies could detail situations on
     terrorist attacks or wartime scenarios.
       ``It's mainly for policymakers, the White House
     decisionmakers, the State Department, military, and military
     leaders,'' he said.
       Although information-sharing among the intelligence
     community has yet to be formalized through NOAH or JCAG or a
     similar system, military officials have said they need some
     kind of linked access capability.
       Intelligence systems need to be included within the Global
     Information Grid--the military's vision of a future global
     network that could be accessed from anywhere in the world,
     said Brig. Gen. Marilyn Quagliotti, vice director of the
     Joint Staff's command, control, communications and computers
     directorate, during a Nov. 5 speech on information assurance
     at a conference in Arlington, VA.
       ``We need a more integrated strategy, including help from
     [the Joint Staff's intelligence directorate] with
     intelligence reports or warnings of an attack,'' she said.
       Quagliotti said the toughest challenge for achieving
     ``information superiority'' is the need to unite networks and
     network managers under one command structure with stronger
     situational awareness capabilities.
       ``Part of [the challenge] is the overwhelming amount of
     information, the ability to access that Information, and the
     ability to reach back and get that information, which means
     that networks become more crucial to the warfight,'' she
     said.
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                        [From Signal, Apr. 2000]

    Fusion Center Concept Takes Root As Congressional Interest Waxes

       Creation of a national operations and analysis hub is
     finding grudging acceptance among senior officials in the
     U.S. national security community. This fresh intelligence
     mechanism would link federal agencies to provide instant
     collaborative threat profiling and analytical assessments for
     use against asymmetrical threats. National policy makers,
     military commanders and law enforcement agencies would be
     beneficiaries of the hub's information.
       Prodded by a resolute seven-term Pennsylvania congressman
     and reminded by recent terrorist and cyberthreat activities,
     the U.S. Defense Department is rethinking its earlier
     aversion to the idea, and resistance is beginning to crumble.
     Funding to establish the national operations and analysis hub
     (NOAH), which would link 28 federal agencies, is anticipated
     as a congressional add-on in the Defense Department's new
     budget. An initial $10 million in funding is likely in fiscal
     year 2001 from identified research and development accounts.
       Spearheading the formation of NOAH is Rep. Curt Weldon (R-
     PA), chairman of the U.S. House of Representatives National
     Security Committee's military research and development
     subcommittee. He emphasizes that challenges facing U.S.
     leaders are beginning to overlap, blurring distinction and
     jurisdiction. ``The increasing danger is both domestic and
     international.''
       Conceptually, NOAH would become a national-level operations
     and control center with a mission to integrate various
     imagery, data and analytical viewpoints. The intelligence
     products would support U.S. actions. ``I see NOAH as going
     beyond the capability of the National Military Command Center
     and the National Joint Military Intelligence Command. NOAH
     would provide recommended courses of action that allow the
     U.S. to effectively meet emerging challenges in near real
     time,'' the congressman illustrates.
       ``This central national-level hub would be composed of a
     system of agency-specified mini centers, or `pods,' of
     participating agencies and services associated with growing
     national security concerns,'' Weldon reports. ``NOAH would
     link the policy maker with action recommendations derived
     from fused information provided by the individual pod.''
     Automation and connectivity would allow the pods to talk to
     each other in a computer-based environment to share data and
     perspectives on a given situation.
       The congressman believes that NOAH should reside within the
     Defense Department and is modeling the hub's concept on a
     U.S. Army organization he closely follows. He says the idea
     for NOAH comes from officials in several federal agencies.
     However, it is also based on his own experiences with the
     U.S. Army's Intelligence and Security Command's (INSCOM's)
     Land Warfare Information Activity (LIWA) and Information
     Dominance Center, Fort Belvoir, Virginia.
       Patterned after LIWA, (SIGNAL, March, page 31), NOAH would
     display collaborative threat profiling and analysis. With the
     aid of a variety of electronic tools, the hub would support
     national actions, Weldon discloses.
       The congressman is conscious of other initiatives such as
     linking counterintelligence groups throughout the community.
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     is aware of the Central Intelligence Agency's (CIA's)
     counterterrorism center, the Federal Bureau of
     Investigation's (FBI's) National Infrastructure Protection
     Center and a new human intelligence (HUMNIT) special
     operations center. ``We don't need another analytical center.
     Instead, we need a national-level fusion center that can take
     already analyzed data and offer courses of action for
     decision making,'' he insists.
       Weldon's wide experience in dealing with officials from the
     FBI, CIA and the National Security Agency (NSA) convince him
     that policy makers are continuing to work in a vacuum.
     ``Briefings and testimonies are the primary vehicles for
     transmitting information to leaders. The volume of
     information germane to national security issues is expanding
     so rapidly that policy makers are overwhelmed with data,'' he
     claims.
       Robust situational awareness of asymmetric threats to
     national security is a key in assisting leaders, Weldon
     observes. ``Policy makers need an overarching information and
     intelligence architecture that will quickly assimilate,
     analyze and display assessments and recommend courses of
     action for many simultaneous national emergencies,'' he
     declares. The concept of NOAH also calls for virtual
     communications among policy makers.
       Weldon's plan is for White House, Congress, Pentagon and
     agency-level leaders each to have a center where they
     receive, send, share and collaborate on assessments before
     they act. He calls NOAH the policy maker's tool. In the
     collaborative environment, the hub would provide a
     multiissue, multiagency hybrid picture to the White House
     situation room and the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
       NOAH's concept also includes support for HUMINT and
     peacekeeping missions along with battle damage assessment.
     The same system could later help brace congressional
     committees and hearings. The new capability would allow
     application of foreign threat analyses to policy, while
     providing a hybrid situational awareness picture of the
     threat, Weldon relates. Industrial efforts of interest to the
     policy maker could be incorporated, and academia also could
     be directly linked.
       In meetings with high-level FBI, CIA and defense officials,
     Weldon stressed the need to ``acquire, fuse and analyze
     disparate data from many agencies in order to support the
     policy maker's actions against threats from terrorism,
     [ballistic missile] proliferation, illegal technology
     diversions, espionage, narcotics [trafficking], information
     warfare and cyberterrorism.'' He is convinced that current
     collection and analysis capabilities in various intelligence
     agencies are stovepiped. ``To some extent, this involves turf
     protection, but it clearly hinders policy making.''
       Weldon, who was a Russian studies major, offers some of his
     own recent experiences as examples of why there is a strong
     need for NOAH. He maintains close contact with a number of
     Russians and understands their programs and technologies. The
     congressman is quick to recall vignettes about Russian
     officials and trips to facilities in the region.
       During the recent U.S. combat action involvement in Kosovo,
     Weldon was contacted by senior Russian officials. Clamoring
     for Russia to be involved in the peace process they claimed
     that otherwise upcoming elections could go to the communists.
     The Russians proposed a Belgrade meeting with Weldon,
     congressional colleagues, key Serbian officials and possibly
     Yugoslave President Slobodan Milosevic.
       After the first meeting with key officials from the
     departments of State and Defense and the CIA, Weldon and
     other members of Congress went to Vienna, Austria. The State
     Department objected to a meeting in Belgrade, suggesting
     instead a neutral site. Before the departure, the Russians
     informed Weldon that Dragomir Karic, a member of a powerful
     and wealthy Kosovo family, would attend the meeting. Karic's
     brother was a member of the Milosevic regime.
       At the end of the Vienna meeting, the Russians and Karic
     told Weldon that if he would accompany them to Belgrade,
     Milosevic was prepared to meet with them and publicly embrace
     a peace agreement concept reached during the Vienna meeting.
     The agreement would have directly involved Russia in the
     peace process. A diplomatic official with the U.S. delegation
     telephoned Washington, D.C., and the State Department
     objected to the Belgrade trip. The congressman and his
     colleagues returned home.
       As soon as he arrived in Washington, D.C., the FBI
     telephoned to request a meeting with Weldon to gather details
     on Karic. It was clear, Weldon reports, they had very little
     information on him or his family. The following day, the CIA
     telephoned the congressman and asked for a meeting ``about
     Karic.'' Instead, the congressman proposed a joint meeting
     with CIA and FBI agents in his office. Two officials from
     each agency attended with a list of questions.
       Weldon learned from the agents that they were seeking
     information on Karic to brief the State Department. When he
     explained that the information came from the Army and LIWA,
     the CIA and FBI agents had no knowledge of that organization,
     he confirms. Before his departure for Vienna, the congressman
     received a six-page LIWA profile of Karic and his family's
     links to Milosevic.
       ``This is an example of why an organization like NOAH is so
     critically necessary,'' Weldon contends. ``LIWA's Information
     Dominance Center provides the best capability we have today
     in the federal government to assess massive amounts of data
     and develop profiles. LIWA uses it contacts with other
     agencies to obtain database information from those systems,''
     he explains. ``Some is unclassified and some classified.''
       Weldon cites an ``extraordinary capability by a former CIA
     and Defense Intelligence Agency official, who is a LIWA
     profiler, as one of the keys in LIWA's success. She does the
     profiling and knows where to look and which systems to pull
     information from in a data mining and extrapolation
     process,'' he proclaims. ``She makes the system work,''
       Weldon intends to use LIWA's profiling capability as a
     model for building NOAH. ``My goal is to go beyond service
     intelligence agencies and integrate all intelligence
     collection. This must be beyond military intelligence, which
     is too narrow in scope, to provide a governmentwide
     capability. Each agency with a pod linked to NOAH would
     provide two staff members assigned at the hub, which would
     operate continuously. Data brought together in ``this cluster
     would be used for fusion and profiling, Which any agency
     could then request,'' he maintains.
       NOAH would not belong to the Army, which would continue
     with its own intelligence capabilities as would the other
     services. There would only be one fusion center, which would
     handle input from all federal agencies and from open sources.
     Weldon explains. ``NOAH would handle threats like information
     operations and examine stability in various regions of the
     world. We need this ability to respond immediately.'' The
     congressman adds that he recently was briefed by LIWA on very
     sensitive, very limited and scary profile information, which
     he describes as ``potentially explosive.'' In turn, Weldon
     arranged briefings for the chairman of the House National
     Security Committee, the Speaker of the House and other key
     congressional leaders.
       ``But this kind of profiling capability is very limited
     now. The goal is to have it on a regular basis. The profiling
     could be used for sensitive technology transfer issues and
     information about security breaches,'' the congressman
     allows. LIWA has what he terms the fusion and profiling
     state-of-the-art capability in the military, ``even beyond
     the military.'' Weldon is pressing the case for NOAH among
     the leaders in both houses of Congress, ``It is essential
     that we create a govenmentwide capability under very strict
     controls.''
       Weldon adds that establishing NOAH is not a funding issue;
     it is a jurisdictional issue. ``Some agencies don't want to
     tear down their stovepipes. Yet, information on a drug lord,
     as an example, could be vitally important to help combat
     terrorism.'' He makes a point that too often, federal
     agencies overlap each other in their efforts to collect
     intelligence against these threats, or they fail to pool
     their resources and share vital information. ``This
     redundancy of effort and confusion of jurisdiction only
     inhibits our nation's capabilities,'' he offers.
       NOAH would provide high-bandwidth, virtual connectivity to
     experts to agency pod sites. Protocols for interagency data
     sharing would be established and refined in links to all pod
     sites. The ability to retrieve, collate, analyze and display
     data would be exercised to provide possible courses of
     action. A backup site would be established for redundancy,
     and training would begin on collaborative tools as soon as it
     is activated.
       This hub system would become part of the national policy
     creation and execution system. The tools available at LIWA
     would be shared so that every agency would have the same
     tools. Weldon explains that all agencies would post data on
     the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) highway in a
     replicated format sensitive to classification. NOAH's global
     network would use the NRO system as a backbone.
       NOAH optimizes groups of expertise within each
     organization--experts who are always on hand regardless of
     the issue. This approach ties strategic analysis and tactical
     assessment to a course of action.``Before the U.S. can take
     action against emerging threats, we must first understand
     their relationship to one another, their patterns, the people
     and countries involved and the level of danger posed to our
     nation,'' Weldon says, ``That is where NOAH begins.''
                                  ____


                    Steps To Achieve NOAH Capability

       Establish baseline capability by building initial Hub
     Center and congressional virtual hearing room. Equip White
     House Situation Room to Collaborate with these sites.
       Staff the Hub Center with two reps from each of the 28 key
     participating agencies.
       Link up NOAH internal and external collaborative
     environment.
       Hook in Back up Site for redundancy and begin training on
     collaborative tools.
       Build the 28 Key Agency Pod Sites along model of the
     Information Dominance Center at Fort Belvoir, VA.
       Link all Pod Sites to NOAH hub center.
       Establish Protocols for Inter-agency data sharing.
       Exercise live ability to retrieve, collate, analyze,
     display disparate data and provide policy makers course of
     action analysis at the NOAH Hub Center.
       Refine procedures and Protocols.
                                  ____


       Agencies Represented in the National Collaborative Center

     Central Intelligence Agency
     Defense Intelligence Agency
     National Imagery and Mapping Agency
     National Security Agency

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     National Reconnaissance Office
     Defense Threat Reduction Agency
     Joint Chiefs of Staff
     Army/LIWA
     Air Force
     Navy
     Marine Corps
     Joint Counter-Intelligence Assessment Group
     ONDCP
     FBI
     Drug Enforcement Agency
     U.S. Customs
     National Criminal Investigative Service
     National Infrastructure Protection Center
     Defense Information Systems Agency
     State Department
     Five CINCs
     Department of Energy
     Department of Commerce
     Department of the Treasury
     Justice Department
     Office of the Secretary of Defense
     National Military Command Center
     National Joint Military Intelligence Command

       Elements to be connected to the national collaborative
     center would include the White House Situation Room, a
     Congressional Virtual Hearing Room and a possible redundant,
     or back-up site.

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